Inconsistencies with the sundering (Spoilers)

[Semirhage]

These threads always read like some CinemaSins "just fly the ring to Mordor on eagles and the whole story is over. PROBLEM SOLVED!" It just reminds me that the modern media consumer has zero interest in what stories are about, and would rather meticulously dissect the physics "rules" of magic.

[KageTokage]

These threads always read like some CinemaSins "just fly the ring to Mordor on eagles and the whole story is over. PROBLEM SOLVED!" It just reminds me that the modern media consumer has zero interest in what stories are about, and would rather meticulously dissect the physics "rules" of magic.

It's because the reasons the story uses to try to argue that there was "no other way" are not exactly rock solid, and are also trying to be used as a defense for having to cause the end of the world as man once knew it.

I told myself back in Shadowbringers that if the Sundering was intentional, it would've had to have been for a really, really good reason for me to find it a moral course of action, but in the end, it was fueled by naught but "maybes" and knowledge that the future we came from was acceptable, if not preferable by Venat's standards.

Dynamis? She admits to having only a "basic" understanding of it, then Beyond the Rift delves into the notion of how the "strength to overcome despair" she sought to cultivate was arbitrary and unfathomable. Not to mention she is only enlightened as to the terrible negative effects dynamis is capable of having on sundered beings, so taking the "fight fire with fire" approach by sending people who can influence dynamis after Meteion was strictly a gamble.

Mankind ending themselves in the pursuit of perfection? The third sacrifice was plainly stated back in ShB to be a terminal point where the Convocation intended to simply resume their way of life as best they could once the sacrificed were restored. Perhaps they might have gone down that path, but it makes no sense to pre-emptively lay waste to everything before things even started going in a bad direction; much less so when it's made clear that the actual sacrifices involved were not the true concern.


There are so many problems I have with basically every aspect of Venat's framing/decisions from everything post-Ktisis up to the present...but I could've been more okay with it if they hadn't doubled down on trying to push her as the absolutely righteous moral authority instead of someone who simply made a selfish, questionably reasoned choice to impose her ideology on the world and that it ended up working out in the end.

[PeaTearGriffin]

There are so many problems I have with basically every aspect of Venat's framing/decisions from everything post-Ktisis up to the present...but I could've been more okay with it if they hadn't doubled down on trying to push her as the absolutely righteous moral authority instead of someone who simply made a selfish, questionably reasoned choice to impose her ideology on the world and that it ended up working out in the end.

And that's another thing that makes venat's choice to sunder etheirys even more confusing. The evidence she had at that point from the WoL's account of what was happening in the current timeline was that sundered people in thavnair were still unable to control dynamis and were turning into blasphemies left and right. After hearing that she still thought it was a good idea to sunder etheirys?

I've seen someone mention before that part of venat's reason for sundering etheirys was because she needed less aetherically dense beings who could use dynamis to kill meteion, but how is that a good decision if the WoL told her that after zodiark was destroyed in the current timeline a second final days started happening and people were turning into blasphemies? That's just a completely terrible gamble to make where the odds were stacked against her. The fact that her plan worked was sheer blind luck as well as a generous amount of help from the writers in the form of plot armor.

[Larirawiel]

These threads always read like some CinemaSins "just fly the ring to Mordor on eagles and the whole story is over. PROBLEM SOLVED!" It just reminds me that the modern media consumer has zero interest in what stories are about, and would rather meticulously dissect the physics "rules" of magic.

Nahh, i hate it when the story writers let some protagonists or antagonists act very stupid because otherwise the story does not make any sense. :/ Instead of creating a story where stupid acting is not necessary. And this happened to the EW story and propably the time travel thing was the reason for it. You should never ... NEVER introduce time traveling if you do not exactly know what you are doing. Otherwise you will have to retcon many things, you propably will create "grandfather paradox"-like situations, causal loops etc.


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