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    aveyond-dreams's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    I wonder how people would feel about Venat if she were physically ugly.
    I mean there were people who said that she must be good because she has a soothing voice so with an outlook that superficial maybe then they'd actually be able to connect the dots and see her as the villain she objectively is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    I mean there were people who said that she must be good because she has a soothing voice so with an outlook that superficial maybe then they'd actually be able to connect the dots and see her as the villain she objectively is.
    I mean it's pretty clear that the writers intended for her to be a tragic hero based on the way she was portrayed. They just botched the narrative and inadvertently made her villainous by implication. It's the nonsense plot that ruins her, not the way she was portrayed.

    Having Venat be an explicit villain wouldn't have fixed Endwalker.

    By the way Aveyond, the story in FFXIV has always been bad, including Heavensward. Haurchefant's death was complete bullcrap not just logistically but in terms of how it tries to pull at our heartstrings for a character nobody gave much of a damn about just because they weren't willing to sacrifice someone of actual import. The resurrection of Nanamo and every single scion after the bloody banquet deflated all sense of danger there could possibly exist going further. The Warriors of Darkness are portrayed as sadistic jerks until they become tragically misunderstood. Every single long-standing character's death in this game has been a prolonged, explicit noble slomo sacrifice, Moenbryda (not that long-standing but whatever), Papalymo, Haurchefant, Ysayle, Minfilia, nobody you know for more than a few hours just gets bloody taken out.

    You hate Endwalker not just because it's trash on its own (which it is). You hate it because it's a grand finale that didn't retroactively make the bs that came before worth it. It's final season of Game of Thrones syndrome where people pretend that the show hadn't already been absolute bullcrap in season 5.

    The last time FFXIV's story was good was in the end of eorzea cutscene.


    Italics part is a little bit of a joke.
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    Last edited by Eisi; 02-10-2023 at 04:23 AM.