Change SCH Dissipation

[Katish]

I would say whm brings nothing to the table outside personal dps and its exchange for safe healing isn't that grand either (i.e no ocgd aoe healing and the damage it does, does not make it up for it), they have to stop and cast healing if they are mistiming their lilies, where other healers have fall backs. Imo, whm should be the personal potential highest dps healer, where the niche could be if they stop anywhere in their dps pattern to heal it will upset a potential 1-2-3 should they implement. It would bring that flavor of being a black mage counterpart to the job. Sage on the other hand can maybe be a reflect healer where they also have a 1-2-3 combo but their combo does not get upset and the personal dmg is not as high as whm but their shields reflect dmg as well as being well a "shield", similar to warrior's vengeance. Sage brings too much utility for me to say that it could ever possibly be the main "DPS" healer. If they were to scrap that utility (they would have to remove the whole shield premise vs pure premise) then I could maybe able to see it but atm it would be far too unbalanced when vsing whm. This would also apply to SCH and AST dynamic...(but AST has their shields atm so I can't say they really stayed true to that premise). Tbh, I think they need to scratch it and restart to get rid of the "sameness"...give each class a niche they excel in be it (dps, some new element, buffing, debuffing, supporting allies), and make it the reason why that class exists (i.e if you make it debuffing, add more than just one debuff skill). Old astro had a lot of support in their cards so just revert to those cards then incorporate the system to revolve around those cards, add more ways to draw. Scholar could have more than one debuff. Whm could be the highest personal DPS. Sage could be the dancer of the healer classes that also specializes in movement. Just some thoughts, and I understand healers are healers first, but the healing could be also incorporated into the job actions themselves which would further the uniqueness and provide more slots for more unique skills.

[Jamini]

Jamini, Dissipation is hot trash. I say that as somebody who has played SCH since 2.0. I say that as somebody who has progged tiers in the past as SCH. Dissipation isn't a core part of our kit, it's a button that needs to either be removed or completely changed in a rework of SCH. Homogenization isn't needed for SCH as much as a complete rework that focuses on the fairy and our tactical abilities as our core identity. Current Dissipation, which removes the fairy from the equation and doesn't buff our tactical heals (Excog, Lustrate, Indom, etc etc), has no reason to exist in this game. A reworked version can, but they could delete the current version and nothing of value will have been lost.

The last tier you cleared with public logs on SCH was in Deltascape. Granted, you did fantastic back then!

Dissipation has also significantly changed since then, as has Scholar. Most notably was removing the requirement to resummon your Faerie (In 5.0) as well as at leas six, seven other tweaks through shadowbringers that I can see.

they could delete the current version and nothing of value will have been lost.

I completely disagree as someone playing and progging presently. Abyssos in particular has a great deal of healing required in it. At some points I am legitimately squeezing out as much healing as I can, especially when progressing through a tier. Cutting my Aetherflow by a fifth would make things uncomfortably tight, and it would reduce what little burst I have nearly in half.

[Zolvolt]

I just want energy drain removed. Its not fun, and people complain about an aetherflow dump completely but wouldn't it be nice if lustrate was usable again?

[Iedarus]

I just want energy drain removed. Its not fun, and people complain about an aetherflow dump completely but wouldn't it be nice if lustrate was usable again?

Every time they removed Energy Drain it broke the job because there was nothing to dump stacks on in the likely chance you only had to burn one on Soil. Not to mention maximizing its usage is Scholar's only form of skill expression. Lustrate still sees use if Excog is on CD or if someone took an unnecessary hit that just left them above half and a raidwide is about to go off.

[RyuDragnier]

The last tier you cleared with public logs on SCH was in Deltascape. Granted, you did fantastic back then!

Halicarnassus still gives me bad flashbacks to progging back then...I hated that fight so much. T_T

Every time they removed Energy Drain it broke the job because there was nothing to dump stacks on in the likely chance you only had to burn one on Soil. Not to mention maximizing its usage is Scholar's only form of skill expression. Lustrate still sees use if Excog is on CD or if someone took an unnecessary hit that just left them above half and a raidwide is about to go off.

This is part of why I want SCH to be reworked to use the Fairy Gauge instead. If the gauge goes up through the fairy healing alone (with Whispering Dawn, Fey Illumination, and Fey Blessing giving higher amounts when used), then Energy Drain could "potentially" be changed to a simple oGCD ability we use off cooldown, with Dissipation becoming the new gauge dump ability without really removing the fairy. Perhaps making it a toggle akin to the old Cleric Stance, except it drains your fairy gauge to let you do more damage at the cost of healing.

[Zolvolt]

Every time they removed Energy Drain it broke the job because there was nothing to dump stacks on in the likely chance you only had to burn one on Soil. Not to mention maximizing its usage is Scholar's only form of skill expression. Lustrate still sees use if Excog is on CD or if someone took an unnecessary hit that just left them above half and a raidwide is about to go off.

The problem with removing energy drain before was that you have to use ruin II to OGCD weav aetherflow spenders outside of dot reapplication, effectively making dumping aetherflow a dps loss. Since broil's cast time was reduced theres no reason to have energy drain because you can dump with lustrate/extra sacred soil since you no longer have to use ruin II to weave OGCD's.

[Iedarus]

The problem with removing energy drain before was that you have to use ruin II to OGCD weav aetherflow spenders outside of dot reapplication, effectively making dumping aetherflow a dps loss. Since broil's cast time was reduced theres no reason to have energy drain because you can dump with lustrate/extra sacred soil since you no longer have to use ruin II to weave OGCD's.

True but being forced to overheal in order to cycle stacks feels awful, gameplay wise and just makes the job an even bigger bore than it is. Sage already has a similar issue of having to overheal at times in order to gain mana.

[Nizzi]

I just want energy drain removed. Its not fun, and people complain about an aetherflow dump completely but wouldn't it be nice if lustrate was usable again?

Energy Drain is fun and makes Scholar more enjoyable than the other 3 boring healers.

[RyuDragnier]

Energy Drain is fun and makes Scholar more enjoyable than the other 3 boring healers.

Nahh, ED isn't that fun.

AST cards are fun since it's productive downtime for extra damage for the party.
SGE's many attacks are fun.
WHM's Presence of Mind into Glare spam is fun (of the spammy I WILL DESTROY YOU nature).
SCH's ED? You don't touch it unless you know you don't need the AF stacks anytime soon or AF is coming off cooldown. Otherwise it just sits there, and if you just use it nilly willy you get punished for it. That ain't fun.

[ty_taurus]

Nahh, ED isn't that fun.

AST cards are fun since it's productive downtime for extra damage for the party.
SGE's many attacks are fun.
WHM's Presence of Mind into Glare spam is fun (of the spammy I WILL DESTROY YOU nature).
SCH's ED? You don't touch it unless you know you don't need the AF stacks anytime soon or AF is coming off cooldown. Otherwise it just sits there, and if you just use it nilly willy you get punished for it. That ain't fun.

I'm sorry, many?