
Balmung is already at 2+ bids on all smalls in 3 of the 5 districts. (Mist/Shiro/LB), I saw one small plot in Mist with 9 bids and another in LB with 13.
More Individual only housing wards are absolutely needed. And I'd go as far as to forbid relocation into them on Smalls. The amount of first time buyers who once again will be blocked from owning a house by those who already have one is one of the most infuriating parts of this whole system because you have to wait a week for the other person's old house to open up.
TBH there should be a cooldown on bidding for a same sized house by at least a month if you win one. Let people who have never had a house and have been trying since ARR to get one finally have a better chance.
I absolutely agree. I wanted to upgrade to a large from a small first when the lottery opened, BUT nope a FC stole it 2 minutes before lottery ended. And it was an FC who relocated from large to a large. :/
A hope is that bright light burning within each and everyone of us!


Help me out here. How could something be stolen that didn't belong to anyone before?

A hope is that bright light burning within each and everyone of us!


And the reason for your complaining is only your entitlement for not getting a Large?
I mean with Empyreum launch people complained: "To many FC Plots, they dont need half of the housing area for themselves". Square changing it to a hybrid model (same as with the former placard clicking era) and people are still complaining.
Whats next? 100% Personal Wards and then complaining "Boo huh I cant find a Venue Plot for my FC"? All of the Plots are gone to Personals. DADDY SQUARE DO SOMETHING. THE SITUATION IS UNBEARABLE. Why does the OF still amaze me after so many years.
Coming from an MMO player of 20+ years who has played all the big titles and many smaller ones as well.
You need to fix the housing system in this game.
SE flames any elitist behavior in their game but then goes on to make an elitist housing market where only a handful of players are able to own a house.
I know you like to have wards and neighborhoods which you can still keep for the elitist players.
BUT you NEED to add some instanced housing options for the rest of the players.
ALL players should be able to have a property to build on and decorate as they see fit. This is a MAJOR issue in an MMO to limit a persons artistic expression.
Housing and glams is the real endgame and the carrot on the stick for many players to keep playing the game...
I lost my housing bid and do not see another opportunity anytime in the future to be able to purchase a house since I am told you rarely ever add houses to the game.
I do not see myself playing this game for very long with no house and no carrot on the stick to motivate me to keep playing this game.
No; they do not.Coming from an MMO player of 20+ years who has played all the big titles and many smaller ones as well.
You need to fix the housing system in this game.
SE flames any elitist behavior in their game but then goes on to make an elitist housing market where only a handful of players are able to own a house.
I know you like to have wards and neighborhoods which you can still keep for the elitist players.
BUT you NEED to add some instanced housing options for the rest of the players.
ALL players should be able to have a property to build on and decorate as they see fit. This is a MAJOR issue in an MMO to limit a persons artistic expression.
Housing and glams is the real endgame and the carrot on the stick for many players to keep playing the game...
I lost my housing bid and do not see another opportunity anytime in the future to be able to purchase a house since I am told you rarely ever add houses to the game.
I do not see myself playing this game for very long with no house and no carrot on the stick to motivate me to keep playing this game.
Despite the arguement from position of authority fallacy you tried to open with your opinion is that; while your opinion is not fact. Nor is mine.
If you played MMo's so for long then you must have seen the fate of all the other games with instanced housing.
LOTRO?2007 Gone FTP 2009 - still running
RIFT?2011 Gone FTP 2018 Dead 2019
Wildstar?2014 FTP 2015 Gone 2018
SWG? 2003 Gone 2011
DAOC? 2001 Gone FTP 2019 - Still running
EQ? 1999 Gone FTP 2012 - Still running
EO? 2014 Gone FTP 2015 - Still running
I would say the closest game to FF 14s was Dark Age of Camelot with Foundations and SWG and LOTRO - but it was nowhere near the meta of housing that FF 14's creative community has given birth to. SWG died after 6 years, DAOC is still running as FTP.
I would say EQ had the best idea; they simply had the system make more wards once a ward was full. It gave everyone a house while still leaving prime plot spaces as achieveable; but sadly this would likely today result in people trying to "force" new wards be made until they get their dream plot through some exploitative means.
Correlation is not causation. Just because those games had instanced housing does not mean that housing was the cause of their problems. You're being deliberately misleading by trying to imply that was the case.No; they do not.
Despite the arguement from position of authority fallacy you tried to open with your opinion is that; while your opinion is not fact. Nor is mine.
If you played MMo's so for long then you must have seen the fate of all the other games with instanced housing.
LOTRO?2007 Gone FTP 2009 - still running
RIFT?2011 Gone FTP 2018 Dead 2019
Wildstar?2014 FTP 2015 Gone 2018
SWG? 2003 Gone 2011
DAOC? 2001 Gone FTP 2019 - Still running
EQ? 1999 Gone FTP 2012 - Still running
EO? 2014 Gone FTP 2015 - Still running
I would say the closest game to FF 14s was Dark Age of Camelot with Foundations and SWG and LOTRO - but it was nowhere near the meta of housing that FF 14's creative community has given birth to. SWG died after 6 years, DAOC is still running as FTP.
I would say EQ had the best idea; they simply had the system make more wards once a ward was full. It gave everyone a house while still leaving prime plot spaces as achieveable; but sadly this would likely today result in people trying to "force" new wards be made until they get their dream plot through some exploitative means.
You've also left SWTOR and ESO off your list? Why is that? Because they're still successful games with instanced housing and so would counter your attempt to blame instanced housing for game failures?
A game being F2P itself is not a problem. It's the way most companies are using predatory tactics with their cash shop pricing that is.
Also correction on RIFT - it was the one of the first MMORPGs to go free to play back in 2013, not 2018. It's also not dead (yet) though the population is a fraction of what it was before Gamigo boughtt Trion and they don't seem to do new content updates anymore. I logged onto my RIFT account in the weeks just before Endwalker's release and just to be certain logged in again just a few minutes ago (always nice to see my Dimensions still there after so many years of not being a paying customer). What closed in 2019 was their attempt at a "classic" progression server for the game. Not that I'm going to recommend RIFT as a game to play at this point. Gamigo is terrible with the way they operate their games. But it's still a good example of what can be achieved with an instanced housing system and how it avoids the problems we get with a ward system.


SWG never had instanced housing, it was always in world housing and there was never a lack of room to find a place to put a house. You're probably mistaking it for Star Wars the Old Republic, which has instanced housing but is still very much around and still getting development content.Despite the arguement from position of authority fallacy you tried to open with your opinion is that; while your opinion is not fact. Nor is mine.
If you played MMo's so for long then you must have seen the fate of all the other games with instanced housing.
LOTRO?2007 Gone FTP 2009 - still running
RIFT?2011 Gone FTP 2018 Dead 2019
Wildstar?2014 FTP 2015 Gone 2018
SWG? 2003 Gone 2011
DAOC? 2001 Gone FTP 2019 - Still running
EQ? 1999 Gone FTP 2012 - Still running
EO? 2014 Gone FTP 2015 - Still running
Also Rift is still active, just bought out by a different publisher and in maintenance mode. As for the success, or lack there of, of Rift had nothing to do with instanced housing. It was largely to do with poor monetization choices, specifically adding pay to win options into the game which turned off a large portion of the player base, as well as reduced development quality and quantity due to the publisher having been funded by venture capital and trying to recoup costs from their other under performing MMOs.
You've also ignored ESO, SWTOR, and Black Desert, which all have instanced housing and are all still doing fairly well.
Whatever argument you're trying to make about instanced housing being some kind of negative attribute just isn't there with the 'facts' you've presented.

It's not a matter of housing lottery being a bad thing... its more a matter of supply and demand... I think Se doesn't do what it should by adding more wards... the situation could easily be addressed by creating a new type of ward and gradually remove the ones that stop being used.
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