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    Quote Originally Posted by Alltair View Post
    Why exactly is someone using the relocation feature a problem?
    I think she is referring to FC's forcing out competition. Essentially suppose you Want Player X to get the house.
    FC of Player X puts 20 Relo bids on the house....and Player X does.
    If FC wins/ they eat the 7mill loss and repeat the process until Player X is the winner because people are not bidding against 20+ players if there is another option.

    It is kind of lame because really there is too much money in the system - and given how slow the housing system moves...it can naturally be very daunting for someone to keep losing a housing bid only to keep seeing the house go up month after month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayan_Calvesse View Post
    I think she is referring to FC's forcing out competition. Essentially suppose you Want Player X to get the house.
    FC of Player X puts 20 Relo bids on the house....and Player X does.
    If FC wins/ they eat the 7mill loss and repeat the process until Player X is the winner because people are not bidding against 20+ players if there is another option.

    It is kind of lame because really there is too much money in the system - and given how slow the housing system moves...it can naturally be very daunting for someone to keep losing a housing bid only to keep seeing the house go up month after month.


    exactly this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuniko View Post
    exactly this.
    How bad is the relo fuckery on Balmung?

    The only somewhat effective way I found to counter it was to bid saturate the location with my own alts first; but most folks down have 8 bid worthy characters on 1 server to do that with - so anyone not with way too many resources is getting screwed over pretty easily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayan_Calvesse View Post
    How bad is the relo fuckery on Balmung?

    The only somewhat effective way I found to counter it was to bid saturate the location with my own alts first; but most folks down have 8 bid worthy characters on 1 server to do that with - so anyone not with way too many resources is getting screwed over pretty easily.
    There was one Empy Medium that was empty for 2 months when EW launched because an officer in a very large FC wanted it and gave gil to her FC mates to bid on it with her every cycle. It was filled when one of the FC members just kept it for themself and left the FC lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayan_Calvesse View Post
    How bad is the relo fuckery on Balmung?

    The only somewhat effective way I found to counter it was to bid saturate the location with my own alts first; but most folks down have 8 bid worthy characters on 1 server to do that with - so anyone not with way too many resources is getting screwed over pretty easily.

    Oh the relocation BS is insanely bad on Balmung. You have HUGE HUGE fc's rolling around with 8-20 members, bidding on plots, wins said plot, then next lottery relocates OFF the plot to prevent people from getting them. Simply cause ''FLUFF YOU''

    I even had a troll FC come up to me, with 24 players, to bid on a large 1st round. I told em how many times i had tried, and they felt sorry for me, and left. But still 24 FC members rolling around. AND EVEN THEN they said they had money to bid for a lot more
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuniko View Post
    Oh the relocation BS is insanely bad on Balmung. You have HUGE HUGE fc's rolling around with 8-20 members, bidding on plots, wins said plot, then next lottery relocates OFF the plot to prevent people from getting them. Simply cause ''FLUFF YOU''

    I even had a troll FC come up to me, with 24 players, to bid on a large 1st round. I told em how many times i had tried, and they felt sorry for me, and left. But still 24 FC members rolling around. AND EVEN THEN they said they had money to bid for a lot more
    Honestly - this is the issue with too much gil in circulation; at this point I really think having FC's compete on "private" plots is essentially madness.

    I assume your trying to relo to a large personal? or FC?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayan_Calvesse View Post
    Honestly - this is the issue with too much gil in circulation; at this point I really think having FC's compete on "private" plots is essentially madness.

    I assume your trying to relo to a large personal? or FC?
    A better idea, Lowering the cap of max gil to about 50 mil..more than 10-20 mil your are more than well off for this game...it would lower the prices on everything and put gil back in alot of folks pockets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldschoolegamer38 View Post
    A better idea, Lowering the cap of max gil to about 50 mil..more than 10-20 mil your are more than well off for this game...it would lower the prices on everything and put gil back in alot of folks pockets.
    Nope, I would simply buy those little gil sacks or other high value items that I could liquidate later. I can put stacks on stacks on my retainers, my alts retainers etc. I could also keep gil in my FC. Also don't forget retainers can simply keep gil for you before needing to do any of that at all. I have max amount of retainers and multiple alts, I could still keep hundreds of millions easily. You can change the cap, you won't change how much money I have or make. If people want to bid on multiple plots they still could and would. If they want to relocate 10x they still can.

    If ppl want to spam relocate to be rude it sucks but at least they are wasting their money. Not to mention they will be stuck with either an empty house that sucks to chill in or be redecorating every few days.

    Balmung being fit to bursting with people that refuse to relocate to a new DC with thousands of plots available for them just shows where the players put their priorities. And it is not on having a house. Having the population be more evenly spread makes sense, adding wards to all servers for the sake of one doesn't make sense. Move, make an alt or accept you have a lot of competition to deal with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayan_Calvesse View Post
    Honestly - this is the issue with too much gil in circulation; at this point I really think having FC's compete on "private" plots is essentially madness.

    I assume your trying to relo to a large personal? or FC?

    I'm going from a small to either medium or large.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayan_Calvesse View Post
    Honestly - this is the issue with too much gil in circulation; at this point I really think having FC's compete on "private" plots is essentially madness.

    I assume your trying to relo to a large personal? or FC?


    I've lived in my small for about 4 years now. And i've tried for a larger house since. 0 luck.
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