Is PLD actually weaker than before?

[Ayan_Calvesse]

I feel Hallowed Ground is fine; its probably the 2nd best invuln given that it is a "true" invul..superbolide sucks because it makes healers go panic mode. Living dead sucks because its Holmgang with a longer CD and some modest HP recovery. Holmgang is the king due to its crazy low CD.

I think thats the nail on the head - Paladins have some real MT staying power; but as a OT I just don't see why you would bring them over others.

[Rithy255]

I feel Hallowed Ground is fine; its probably the 2nd best invuln given that it is a "true" invul..superbolide sucks because it makes healers go panic mode. Living dead sucks because its Holmgang with a longer CD and some modest HP recovery. Holmgang is the king due to its crazy low CD.

I think thats the nail on the head - Paladins have some real MT staying power; but as a OT I just don't see why you would bring them over others.

Superbolide can pair well with heart of corundum it's certainly not the best invul but I consider being 1 minute quicker then HG is a way better advantage, Living dead maybe a gimmicky longer holmgang but it's on 5 minutes it's pretty short when you compare it to Paladins or even Gunbreakers, Holm gang is holm gang.

Hallowed grounds main advantages are more for casual content where healers/tanks use Invuls either in big pulls or emergencies, when your in a coordinated team it's next to useless to have the "better effect" when healers know whats coming, to me PLD's easily 4th place in terms of invul and will stay that way

Paladins also have some good MT potential the Issue is that oh no Warrior Exists what's the point of bringing Paladin when a warrior can do a lot of what you can do but just better at Sustain, strong raid wide, pretty Good defensives, Shortest invul, even slightly better DPS right now, PLD's just outshined by warrior and warrior isn't even meta, PLD's advantages are some really useless utilities in clemency and cover... Shield bash? I guess passage can be alright, if everyones together for that mech.

[Absurdity]

I feel Hallowed Ground is fine; its probably the 2nd best invuln given that it is a "true" invul..superbolide sucks because it makes healers go panic mode. Living dead sucks because its Holmgang with a longer CD and some modest HP recovery. Holmgang is the king due to its crazy low CD.

I think thats the nail on the head - Paladins have some real MT staying power; but as a OT I just don't see why you would bring them over others.

Debatable. The fact that Superbolide sets you to 1 HP is entirely negligeable when it's use is planned, which it always is in content where it actually matters. Both Superbolide and Hallowed Ground are also true invulns, not taking any damage comes with unique benefits that Holmgang and Living Dead simply don't have.

The latter two are also not nearly as useful than they were up until Asphodelos due to how tank busters work this tier and may work in the future.