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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurina View Post
    I feel like this fanbase has collectively absorbed the superficial detail that Thomas More's Utopia is a satire and assumed it's a satire of the concept of utopias, when that's not really the case at all.
    Thomas More’s Utopia was designed as a contrast to contemporary European society just as FFXIV’s Amaurot does the same to Eorzea, but from a modern lens it is by no means perfect. In More’s Amaurot, individualism and privacy do not exist and everyone owns slaves.

    At the end of the book, More disagrees with much of Amaurot’s society but wants to learn more about it and implement parts of it despite thinking it’ll never happen.

    Much of what More actually meant is still up for debate and unless FFXIV’s writers told us the intention and the angle they were going with the references, we’ll just end up in circles.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lurina View Post
    That we are too reactionary and defensive regarding our own customs and values to rationally envision a completely different kind of society from the ground up.
    This could also apply to the pearl-clutching reaction people have to Venat’s actions and labels of evil and genocide.

    Elpis established that they believed everyone back then was in service of the Star and an intrinsic part of it while at the same time being so powerful that they felt they had the right to make extreme decisions on behalf of everyone else.

    Would they consider it genocide? Or would they consider it just a continuation of their souls being recycled? This never comes up and these questions are never asked.

    While an immediately bad thing that breaks everyone and everything into 14, it’s never treated by the story as a genocide and also not treated as a maliciously heinous act of evil. Venat never gets a dressing-down from Emet-Selch or Hythlodeus and the story continues to treat her as good.
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    Last edited by MikkoAkure; 01-26-2023 at 03:14 AM.