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    Quote Originally Posted by Caro178 View Post
    Also echoing the thought that I wish they would more selective when it comes to fitting circlets and bows. They don't test them on enough hairstyles or races and we end up in a situation where even out of the maybe 15% of headgear in the game that works on Viera most of it clips, floats or clips and floats.
    Unfortunately, this is a problem for all races, or at least the ones I have played. Although viera does have some very egregious examples, there are pieces that just simply look better on viera, or rather fit the head better. At least depending on the selection of hairs you may use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Unfortunately, this is a problem for all races, or at least the ones I have played. Although viera does have some very egregious examples, there are pieces that just simply look better on viera, or rather fit the head better. At least depending on the selection of hairs you may use.
    Yeah, it definitely is a problem on all races and isn't even at its worst on Viera. One of the ones that happens to bug me the most is the blue gemstone bow. It's so pretty, but for how hard I worked for it the fact that it functions on an extremely limited list of hairstyles without severe floating is pure suffering. That, and a big grind reward not even being dyeable is perplexing on all counts. I hope to see this changed one day.
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    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Unfortunately, this is a problem for all races, or at least the ones I have played. Although viera does have some very egregious examples, there are pieces that just simply look better on viera, or rather fit the head better. At least depending on the selection of hairs you may use.
    Hrothgar have really awkward examples as well xD

    Glasses are always pushed so far out...


    ...which in turn causes issues with monocles, as they're then just floating glass circles.


    Headbands are just floating halos around our foreheads

    I know honey, if I were you I wouldn't want to open my eyes for this travesty either.


    Some accessories are also just casually floating off to the side


    But the trade-off is that some hairstyles are supposed to be large enough to cover these flaws, I suppose???

    But here's the thing. Even that comes with consequences:
    I loved this circlet ; _ ;


    In fact, this hairstyle guarantees I will NEVER see any earring I have on. None.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    Hrothgar have really awkward examples as well xD

    Glasses are always pushed so far out...


    ...which in turn causes issues with monocles, as they're then just floating glass circles.


    Headbands are just floating halos around our foreheads

    I know honey, if I were you I wouldn't want to open my eyes for this travesty either.


    Some accessories are also just casually floating off to the side


    But the trade-off is that some hairstyles are supposed to be large enough to cover these flaws, I suppose???

    But here's the thing. Even that comes with consequences:
    I loved this circlet ; _ ;


    In fact, this hairstyle guarantees I will NEVER see any earring I have on. None.
    Oh, my…. How someone on the dev team could have been thinking “ok guys, this is good, let’s release this !” !??
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    they probably don't put in as much effort because they know the hrothgar playerbase is already very minuscule compared to other races) that's not to say i don't like hrothgar, that's just what census data tells me
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    Quote Originally Posted by grinkdaboy View Post
    they probably don't put in as much effort because they know the hrothgar playerbase is already very minuscule compared to other races) that's not to say i don't like hrothgar, that's just what census data tells me
    I'm not sure how true this is anymore. Yes, Hrothgar have been neglected for a long time and still is, but I think the ears controversy was a wake-up call for Square Enix. Ears are back, they stopped giving us tiny heads like they did almost 95% of the time with ShB helmets, a good chunk of the new hairstyles actually fit our heads now..
    It seems there's a conscious effort on their part.
    Being a Hrothgar now feels much better than it was just a year ago.

    EDIT: (Now if we could get SOME NPC representation instead of absolutely nothing, it would be nice.)
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    Last edited by Kazhar; 01-24-2023 at 09:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhar View Post
    I'm not sure how true this is anymore. Yes, Hrothgar have been neglected for a long time and still is, but I think the ears controversy was a wake-up call for Square Enix. Ears are back, they stopped giving us tiny heads like they did almost 95% of the time with ShB helmets, a good chunk of the new hairstyles actually fit our heads now..
    It seems there's a conscious effort on their part.
    Being a Hrothgar now feels much better than it was just a year ago.

    EDIT: (Now if we could get SOME NPC representation instead of absolutely nothing, it would be nice.)
    Loosely related but I just played the EW MSQ again and there's a Hrothgar among the Sharlayan forum members and I could swear he wasn't there before.



    *EDIT* apparently he was always there and I somehow managed to miss him. I'm getting my Hrothgar fanclub card revoked for this. Jokes aside, that begs the question of how could Sharlayan possibly get Bozja/Hrothgar lore wrong when there's one literally on their seat of power lol
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    Last edited by Allegor; 01-25-2023 at 02:10 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Loosely related but I just played the EW MSQ again and there's a Hrothgar among the Sharlayan forum members and I could swear he wasn't there before.

    You can look up some Endwalker MSQ videos from around 6.0 release date if you want to cross-reference this scene. I'd help but I feel somewhat unwell so too lazy...
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Jokes aside, that begs the question of how could Sharlayan possibly get Bozja/Hrothgar lore wrong when there's one literally on their seat of power lol
    Clearly it's because his family has been raised in Sharlayan for generations, so they don't know how the normal social structure for Hrothgar is. This is partially me joking, and partially me coming up with a logical reason to explain it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhar View Post
    I'm not sure how true this is anymore. Yes, Hrothgar have been neglected for a long time and still is, but I think the ears controversy was a wake-up call for Square Enix. Ears are back, they stopped giving us tiny heads like they did almost 95% of the time with ShB helmets, a good chunk of the new hairstyles actually fit our heads now..
    It seems there's a conscious effort on their part.
    Being a Hrothgar now feels much better than it was just a year ago.

    EDIT: (Now if we could get SOME NPC representation instead of absolutely nothing, it would be nice.)
    A brand new trust for 7.0 that is a Hrothgar and not another godsdamned scholar would be a breath of fresh air.
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