VIERA AND HROTHGAR COMPLAINT MEGATHREAD

[Pip_Chick]

Was really thinking about the hunch when I had an interesting idea.
If anyone here played The Sims4 or just watched some videos on it, they would know that in character creation they added a category in which you can choose how to walk based on the personality of your Sim, one of those being hunched when walking, but others are like energised or scary, etc.
What if the devs implemented something like that in game? That way a lot of problems with honestley a lot of races could be resolved with minimal effort. Like the Elezen rigid running or Hrothgar's hunch back. It could give for some more diversity in movement.
It would not need to be a lot if that would make ot too complicated, but like 2-3 options for every race would be cool.

[Iscah]

Oh, I should have specified this was for my female Viera. On my male I only wear various sandals or the short combat boots from Paradigm's Breach. I'm not fond of the male Viera racial clawed shoes. Island Sanctuary just updated with a wonderful batch of gorgeous sandals and I've been feasting.

I actually was meaning specifically sandals or light shoes that continue the claw-toed look so I can keep that theme running for him.

They are definitely nice sandals though, and I'll be making use of them on my various characters once I get them that far into the game. Locking so much untradable glamour behind Island Sanctuary and then locking it so far into main game progress is multiple levels of inconvenient.

[Caro178]

I actually was meaning specifically sandals or light shoes that continue the claw-toed look so I can keep that theme running for him.

They are definitely nice sandals though, and I'll be making use of them on my various characters once I get them that far into the game. Locking so much untradable glamour behind Island Sanctuary and then locking it so far into main game progress is multiple levels of inconvenient.

Incredibly inconvenient. On one hand I hope they keep updating Island Sanctuary into 7.0 because I really enjoy it, but on the other the grind for glamour items is going to become increasingly difficult the more steps are added. There's supposed to be another huge update in 6.4. I know this isn't the topic of the thread so I'll leave it at this and segue back on topic, but I'm curious if there will be a whole new type of cowrie or if they'll continue to focus on the Seafarer cowries going forward.

[SturmChurro]

I'm still holding onto hope that we get more heels. There's only so many times I can use the Bonewicca or Viera starter heels. They're nice, but something that cool go with more/different glamours would be nice. Variety is key!

You're all good. A glam mood is a good mood.

I need heels. They look good on everything, but ESPECIALLY viera, since they are leggy. The viera starter heels are great, but it can be too much of a look. Sometimes (most of the time) I want just the heel. We need some neutrals; things that can fit with a lot of pieces.

Glam mood.. yes.. I stayed up very late night and into the morning, just making glams, portraits, and the like. Just a nice little distraction. I had ideas on my mind.

As much as I think the Viera from Tactics look weird as hell with their flesh coloured ears (are they made of skin? Are they furless? Do you think they feel like Sphinx cat peach fuzz??) they have some interesting heels that show off their claws.



I think everybody needs more heeled boots. Heels look so incredibly good on Viera, too. We were lucky to get the Summer Sunset platforms this summer which fit Viera perfectly. I basically swap back and forth between the Viera sandals, the Summer Sunset platforms, the Frontier pumps, the Deepshadow healer/caster grieves with a few flat shoes mixed in here and there.

I want that hair first and foremost! My viera would looks so good with that style. Probably. I'll glam around the clipping.

Yes, heels are best on viera. The majority of what I wear for footwear in this game are sandals, or heels. I do wear some sneakers, though. I have a soft spot for sneakers, so I don't mind if SE keeps making more.

[Midareyukki]

Was really thinking about the hunch when I had an interesting idea.
If anyone here played The Sims4 or just watched some videos on it, they would know that in character creation they added a category in which you can choose how to walk based on the personality of your Sim, one of those being hunched when walking, but others are like energised or scary, etc.
What if the devs implemented something like that in game? That way a lot of problems with honestley a lot of races could be resolved with minimal effort. Like the Elezen rigid running or Hrothgar's hunch back. It could give for some more diversity in movement.
It would not need to be a lot if that would make ot too complicated, but like 2-3 options for every race would be cool.

That's... assuming it's 3 options max for every race. That's an additional set of animations for drawn weapons and idle poses.

You have the chance to have 20 jobs, so that's 60 animations, as that's 20 jobs x 3 personality traits. Including the base 3 idle poses, that's a total of 63 idle poses. Not counting the command to change pose where your character strikes a pose with their weapon, those always follow basic Hyur animations. I'm talking about simply having your weapon drawn, the one between autoattacks. Because that one is what's glitched on Hrothgar; we're trying to do a Roegadyn pose but then snap back to a hunched over Hrothgar pose.

And that's simply assuming that the other /changepose's won't be any different. Since those by default already display different personalities.

Then you have 8 races to pick from, each with two versions (some of which differ massively lore-wise, like the Xaela and the Raen), each version containing two genders. So that's 32 options total. AT MOST, because I do assume there will be overlap at some point, if we assume there's 63 poses for each race option and gender (sorry fans of gender-unlocking stuff), then that makes up 2016 animations they'd have to make. At most.

Naturally there will be overlap, cut corners, recycled animations and stuff like that, so a realistic number would be far lower. But it would still be rather high. We can easily cut out about a third because that will obviously be the default option we already have anyway.

The point is that while this is cute, and a girl can dream, realistically, Square would never. But this isn't a diss to you nor your idea. It's just that this isn't the same sort of game as TS4 in terms of graphics design.

They can't be bothered to make individual bodies for each race.
They can't be bothered to make hairs for each individiual race type.
They also can't be bothered to make gear look good half the time, or uncoupling it from its model and render it all gender-free.
They couldn't be bothered to keep Hrothgar ears until specifically raged at.
They can't even be bothered to give them back without it having a garbage mesh around it.

Square would never because the same company that has entire studios dedicated to making Triple-A games can't afford to purchase a few decent designers to improve upon their MMO. Because the issue with companies in general is that "if it works, why bother fix it?". Rather than having further respect for the product that's given them actual good faith in a full decade of terrible games and improve on its experience further. And sure, it takes a lot to do these things. I won't deny that. It DOES take time to make a model for an area, than alone animating like 32 models individually however dozen times. But if Square can't afford the absolute bare minimum, they can't afford something as good as this.

[RobynDaBank]

You guys, does the Makai Aiming butterfly ribbon appear on female Viera? I'm a hair's length away from Fantasia to fem. Viera and I simply need to know.

Edit, I found out that it is, never mind!

[Caro178]

As a general rule I believe ALL tiaras, circlets, glasses, headbands, hair clips, flower corsages, ribbons and scarves will show up on Viera. Most tiny hats also work. The items that don't show up on buns are those that replace existing hair models with tucked in alternatives and tiny hats/full head model replacements released before late Shadowbringers.

[RobynDaBank]

As a general rule I believe ALL tiaras, circlets, glasses, headbands, hair clips, flower corsages, ribbons and scarves will show up on Viera. Most tiny hats also work. The items that don't show up on buns are those that replace existing hair models with tucked in alternatives and tiny hats/full head model replacements released before late Shadowbringers.

Thanks, will keep in mind!

[LuciaMirain]

I wish they would fix the hat issue really. I glam alot and I always feel a bit lacking with options when it comes to the headgear. I want to be able to just toggle off the ears (yes I know it is the HAIR that is the problem). And no I can't use m*ds bc the glampages do not allow m*dded pics to be shown. I think they should really focus on the AF gear and raidgear at least.

[SturmChurro]

I wish they would fix the hat issue really. I glam alot and I always feel a bit lacking with options when it comes to the headgear. I want to be able to just toggle off the ears (yes I know it is the HAIR that is the problem). And no I can't use m*ds bc the glampages do not allow m*dded pics to be shown. I think they should really focus on the AF gear and raidgear at least.

I really want some more quality circlets, tiaras, and the like, but those are super hit or miss, since half of them float, or clip through hairs. Thankfully I don't use hats in the majority of my own glams regardless of the races I have played. I don't think we should invite SE to start removing ears though. I HATE tails being removed, and I'd hate ears to be removed in more pieces. I would prefer they make a unique model, or adjustments based on race, but that's an impossibility, it seems. I DO think if they won't do everything, AT LEAST do iconic pieces, and frankly, I think cash shop pieces too, but I digress.

I don't like the idea of ears being removed even as a toggle.