VIERA AND HROTHGAR COMPLAINT MEGATHREAD

[grinkdaboy]

Or they could stop giving Viera something for one patch, give Hrothgar all the hair to CATCH THEM UP with Viera, and THEN unlock them for both at the same time. Because I'm sorry, Viera should not be getting the preferential treatment, they already got their missing gender, they can wait for hair. Yes, I'm still pissed about Viera holding Hrothgar back, AND I WILL BE FOREVER.

it's not preferential treatment, more people play viera than hrothgar because hrothgar appeals to a very very specific niche vs viera which have a much broader appeal. if more people played hrothgar and hrothgar was more popular then you can rest assured that they'd be getting the better deal. (it also helps that viera heads are easier to work with compared to the funny shaped hrothgar heads)

[RyuDragnier]

it's not preferential treatment, more people play viera than hrothgar because hrothgar appeals to a very very specific niche vs viera which have a much broader appeal. if more people played hrothgar and hrothgar was more popular then you can rest assured that they'd be getting the better deal. (it also helps that viera heads are easier to work with compared to the funny shaped hrothgar heads)

You wrote all that just to agree with me. Because you just said Hrothgar isn't getting anything because it's not that popular, meaning Viera is getting more because it is. Thus, preferential treatment.

[BiddyBatnana]

Aren't those fairly stiff on all races – is it definitely worse or have you not looked at others? Are they actually stiffer on female Viera specifically (not male Viera, not Hrothgar) or is there something about the new races compared to the old ones?

Not trying to disprove it anything, but being specific to female Viera seems odd. (Or is this what they were cryptically referring to about fixing issues with male Viera that the female models had?)

No sadly they don't move at all on Female Viera only.. which so odd. I used these hair on my previous fantasia (Lala/Roe) and they moved flowlessly .

[XianRo]

Or they could stop giving Viera something for one patch, give Hrothgar all the hair to CATCH THEM UP with Viera, and THEN unlock them for both at the same time. Because I'm sorry, Viera should not be getting the preferential treatment, they already got their missing gender, they can wait for hair. Yes, I'm still pissed about Viera holding Hrothgar back, AND I WILL BE FOREVER.

I remember when patch 6.1 notes said "new hairstyles for hrothgar" and despite it saying "and viera" in the jp text every viera online lost their minds even though the only thing hrothgar would be getting would be the hairs they already had at the top of endwalker.
Hrothgar SHOULD get caught up to viera before ew ends but god knows people will see like "12 new styles for hrothgar" and think viera were getting screwed over like no theyre finally doing their job correctly and not leaving hrothgar out til 7.55

[Caro178]

I've said it before, I'll say it again. A few of the Hrothgar mains around here need to reflect and stop fabricating boogeymen out of the Viera players (be they mains or alts) here. Everybody wants every single one of us to get every hair. There is no "All Viera players reacted this way" to anything because Viera players aren't a singular hivemind of drones. A lot of us have said before that we would be fine with SE taking a break for a patch or two in order to catch Viera up with Hrothgar, but approximately 5 Viera players in an English forum for a Japanese video game that nobody relevant pokes one eyeball in possess the capability to make that decision. Saying something doesn't make it happen which means saying it is the most you can expect from any of us and should be worth the same weight. Viera players did not ask to be 2 patches ahead of Hrothgar, that is just how the devs chose to go about things somewhere higher up in their scheduling when they appointed people in charge of porting new hairstyles.

Not everything needs to be about popularity or one race holding the other back. I think what is being constantly and fundamentally ignored is that porting hairstyles to Hrothgar and creating the female model is more work than the same jobs for Viera. Hrothgar are unique even by the XIV's standards of racial characters while Viera are just another version of the same - a Hyur-shape with animal characteristics. It is reasonable that they chose to tackle the easier job first so they could give players something tangible while they work to develop updates for Hrothgar.

[RyuDragnier]

It is reasonable that they chose to tackle the easier job first so they could give players something tangible while they work to develop updates for Hrothgar.

You know the second you made a comment like this, it blew out any sense you were making, and only served to enrage people. Me being one of them. THEY CAN PUT IN THE DAMNED WORK IF THEY DON'T TOUCH VIERA FOR A PATCH OR TWO.

[Allegor]

It is reasonable that they chose to tackle the easier job first so they could give players something tangible while they work to develop updates for Hrothgar.

While I agree with the overall statement, I think it's reasonable this last part is what gets people upset because now we know they haven't been working on developing Hrothgar because "tHeY DidN't kNoW" Hrothgar wanted, let alone expected the same treatment Viera would be getting, so the past 3 years and several months was just us waiting like fools for something that was never going to happen until we made a tantrum about it on social media and forced the devs to reschedule. Some communication could've saved a lot of drama.

[SassyAssassin]

Let’s not turn on eachother, SE is at fault for not caring or paying enough attention to what we actually want, not the players who are just waiting for years for a crumb of hair and hat.

[Boblawblah]

Let’s not turn on eachother, SE is at fault for not caring or paying enough attention to what we actually want, not the players who are just waiting for years for a crumb of hair and hat.

[Pip_Chick]

People have a right to be upset regardless of how much some personally think they shouldn't. Hrothgar are 2 patches behind Viera. There is no telling that Hrothgar will get further updates after Viera get all of theirs.
I just wish SE would take some time to get us up to speed so this worry wouldn't be there. But this will likely fall on deaf ears. 6.4 is already here, nothing we say will change what we already got.

Patiently waiting for 6.5 I guess...