Housing Roulette was an absolute trash idea.

[Joven]

Your shtick is that you pay them to play and they use it to fund crap that doesn't take off and they put barely any of it back into the game, which makes you a sucker.

Which is what you're also doing, but OK. If the game got to a stage where I was unhappy with it then I would quit. It's just that simple.

If they profit so much from FFXIV, the expectation should be that they make FFXIV better. I would be doing the same thing if I owned a large house, just like I was against placard spamming despite always owning one. I'm thankfully not an asshole, so I can care about things that aren't just myself.

Expectations and reality often never meet. That's just the size of it.

You can direct that sentiment to everyone who wants a larger house, your egotistical-self included, since you have a medium.

It was there, I was there, I had the money and bingo. I didn't go into it expecting a medium or any house and it wouldn't have bothered me if I hadn't gotten one at all. Circumstance doesn't equate ego. Going into it expecting to get one and then getting pissy when you don't kinda does though. If the medium wasn't an FC house I would sell it and use my small, but that's not how the system works.

All houses offer no benefit to the game's other content outside of the garden you put in the front, which was another facet of why they should be accessible to everyone, including people who want a large and have the gil to pay for it; who would then get to use 3 of them at once as opposed to 1 (so technically, you're incorrect). In addition to FC housing, which actually has no benefit to perservering on larger houses, since the company workshop is functionally the same; and again, mostly benefits itself as a content island in that an absolute ton of sub items are minions and other aesthetics like furnishings (for a house.) Or selling it for money.

That was never in dispute. But acting like because it's not necessary to do anything else doesn't mean its not important or that it should be disregarded. It's pretentious and disingenous at best that you think that people who don't want smalls should be satisfied with them when this doesn't have to be the case.

I never said it should be disregarded, but to openly scorn and disregard the majority of housing units because you personally think they suck is also pretentious and disengenous. As much as the old system sucked at least if you had a small you had a chance for an upgrade, but that wasn't good enough either apparently.

Edit:

Also more unhinged of you to change servers and then accuse people of pouting when they aren't content with SE not half-assing everything. Perhaps that's why it was so easy for you to leave.

Ah, a ninja edited dig.

You nothing about why I transfered servers, but please, do continue making assumptions.

[Corvus_V]

Which is what you're also doing, but OK. If the game got to a stage where I was unhappy with it then I would quit. It's just that simple.

So the most desirable outcome is anyone who is unhappy with it should quit and unsub without saying anything. Smart.

Expectations and reality often never meet. That's just the size of it.

This is good how? What do you think feedback is for?

It was there, I was there, I had the money and bingo. I didn't go into it expecting a medium or any house and it wouldn't have bothered me if I hadn't gotten one at all. Circumstance doesn't equate ego. Going into it expecting to get one and then getting pissy when you don't kinda does though. If the medium wasn't an FC house I would sell it and use my small, but that's not how the system works.

You were allegedly there because you deliberately moved to a foreign DC for the purposes of getting a house. But I still think you're a cool cat for pretending it wasn't a big deal to you.
There's also no benefit to owning a medium as an FC. You said it yourself. It's just ego. You spent the extra gil for nothing; not knowing about the gardening, I guess. That's not ego? Maybe you should choose your words a little more carefully instead of having an image problem about how seriously you take it because you want to appear stoic or something. I'm not interested in your fan club.

I never said it should be disregarded, but to openly scorn and disregard the majority of housing units because you personally think they suck is also pretentious and disengenous. As much as the old system sucked at least if you had a small you had a chance for an upgrade, but that wasn't good enough either apparently.

Jesus Christ. You're acting like I hurt the small's feelings. Do you want me to write an apology?
It's pretentious to say they suck when they objectively have less space and lower decoration limits? It's not disingeous to insinuate that people who aren't happy given that fact should just be happy they get to have anything at all? Do you know what the words I use mean?

I literally don't care about the old system and I would prefer if we stop talking about it because almost everyone seems to agree that the lottery is better, but the fact of the matter is is that it still sucks. The previous system supported RMT and house-trading and house-flipping. That's far less than ideal. I personally think relocation was fine, even in spite of that because I'd be capable of it due to the fact that I was willing to placard spam, and of the net 0 effect I'd have on land for relocating; but obviously they're both objectively bad because of the fact that people are displeased about the size distribution. I'd still be here talking shit about it even if placardspam/relo was still here, because there'd be an influx of people playing who simply can't participate in this part of the game.

Ah, a ninja edited dig.

You nothing about why I transfered servers, but please, do continue making assumptions.

You already told us why you transferred. I'm joking with you, but you want to be a cynic and assume anyone who is dissatisfied is just selfish and entitled if they dare to talk about it. If you'd refrain from white knighting the million dollar company by personally attacking people and making stupid assumptions about them as well, maybe someone in North America would've let you decorate their small house.

[Joven]

So the most desirable outcome is anyone who is unhappy with it should quit and unsub without saying anything. Smart.



This is good how? What do you think feedback is for?

When did I ever say you should never say anything? The point is if it seems like they are moving in a direction you don't like no matter what you say then throwing a hissy fit serves no purpose. Your best bet is to just cut your losses.

You were allegedly there because you deliberately moved to a foreign DC for the purposes of getting a house. But I still think you're a cool cat for pretending it wasn't a big deal to you.
There's also no benefit to owning a medium as an FC. You said it yourself. It's just ego. You spent the extra gil for nothing; not knowing about the gardening, I guess. That's not ego? Maybe you should choose your words a little more carefully instead of having an image problem about how seriously you take it because you want to appear stoic or something. I'm not interested in your fan club.

I guess that one was on me not being specific. My friends were the ones who transfered for the housing and they convinced me to come along. To me housing was just a side interest. All I wanted was to play with my friends. So the reasoning is the same, but the target was not. My bad.

Jesus Christ. You're acting like I hurt the small's feelings. Do you want me to write an apology?

Yes.

It's pretentious to say they suck when they objectively have less space and lower decoration limits? It's not disingeous to insinuate that people who aren't happy given that fact should just be happy they get to have anything at all? Do you know what the words I use mean?

So you have a 1 in 25 million chance to win 1 of 3 prizes but because one of those prizes isn't quite as good as the others you complain. That is pretentious. It's like winning 10 million dollars and complaining because it's not 200 million.

[Corvus_V]

When did I ever say you should never say anything? The point is if it seems like they are moving in a direction you don't like no matter what you say then throwing a hissy fit serves no purpose. Your best bet is to just cut your losses.

You imply it by continuously asserting that any actual solution is impossible and by misappropriating it to a small subset of people who take up a relatively also small subset of space considering all of the wards. Collectively, everyone does that by being a contrarian and defending their insular forum community from any kind of feedback just because you believe it will never do anything (which it does, and can, i.e male Viera.

No. Though I'm fine with unsubbing. I'm personally fine with signal boosting and encouraging people to talk about it here as well as other platforms, as well as the validity of their concerns whilst people like you and the other guy who insinuated it was entitlement a few pages back exist.

I guess that one was on me not being specific. My friends were the ones who transfered for the housing and they convinced me to come along. To me housing was just a side interest. All I wanted was to play with my friends. So the reasoning is the same, but the target was not. My bad.

Did you give them this talk too? Why didn't they just buy apartments?

[Corvus_V]

Yes.

Dear FINAL FANTASY XIV SMALL HOUSE,
I have never in my life made a mistake of this magnitude. My depth of my personal regret and mortification is only exceeded by the remorse I feel for how my actions have affected FINAL FANTASY XIV SMALL HOUSE.

Please accept my sincere apology. I have learned so much from this incident, especially in regard to how I should conduct myself in the future. For example, {changes}.

If there is any way that I can make amends, please don't hesitate to let me know. For example, {suggestion}. It won't be easy to atone for such a huge error, but I am determined to do my best.

Sincerely,

Corvus

What if I just divorce the smalls and take the kids instead?

So you have a 1 in 25 million chance to win 1 of 3 prizes but because one of those prizes isn't as good as the others you complain. That is pretentious. It's like winning 10 million dollars and complaining because it's not 200 million.

No, it's like winning nothing, since you have to pay for it. Similarly, it's like winning nothing but paying more when you obtain a medium or large house. You don't actually win anything at all, because you pay for the experience. It's part of what you pay for; and just something we aren't getting because SE isn't handling it the way they should.
The disingenuous part is referring to you saying smalls are as good when it's clear due to the openings people don't want them, in the same way they don't want apartments because of how small they are. Both allow you to use indoor furnishings, but they're undesirable because of the low decoration count, and low amount of space you can even use to decorate it. I promise you that the difference isn't the fact that you can place approximately 20 items outside.

The pretentious part of what you said prior was that you said there "was no benefit to owning anything larger than a small" which was both factually incorrect on a technical level and practically incorrect in the fact that it isn't as fun to decorate one because of the limitations, and you're acting like they are the same as larger sized houses when they are not.
I really don't feel like I should continue to dignify this train of thought because its ridiculous. You're misappropriating participating in something that you pay for as a privilege rather than a purchasing a service, and winning instead of earning.

You can also only participate in one lottery at a time. So it's like paying 15$ to participate in any lottery whatsoever, and opting to go for the one that rewards you with a -checks notes- something no one wants because it's bad as opposed to potentially winning 200 million, or whatever, like you said.
It might even be best if, when you think about it, there was no lottery or gambling at all, and everyone could just own what they can afford since this is a video-game.

[Joven]

You imply it by continuously asserting that any actual solution is impossible and by misappropriating it to a small subset of people who take up a relatively also small subset of space considering all of the wards. Collectively, everyone does that by being a contrarian and defending their insular forum community from any kind of feedback just because you believe it will never do anything (which it does, and can, i.e male Viera.

No. Though I'm fine with unsubbing. I'm personally fine with signal boosting and encouraging people to talk about it here as well as other platforms, as well as the validity of their concerns whilst people like you and the other guy who insinuated it was entitlement a few pages back exist.

Once again, never said impossible, just unlikely and the odds that they weren't going to add male viera in the future were already low so, bad example.

What if I just divorce the smalls and take the kids instead?

Only if they get half of your gil plus alimony and I get a sizable retainer fee for being their representative.

Did you give them this talk too? Why didn't they just buy apartments?

Didn't need to because they went where the houses were instead of insisting there were none to be had.

The disingenuous part is referring to you saying smalls are as good when it's clear due to the openings people don't want them, in the same way they don't want apartments because of how small they are. Both allow you to use indoor furnishings, but they're undesirable because of the low decoration count, and low amount of space you can even use to decorate it. I promise you that the difference isn't the fact that you can place approximately 20 items outside.

Again, if they REALLY wanted a house a small would suffice. Then once that's secure, go for a larger one.

I really don't feel like I should continue to dignify this train of thought because its ridiculous. You're misappropriating participating in something that you pay for as a privilege rather than a purchasing a service, and winning instead of earning.

Being able to afford the monthly fee plus price of expansions while also having the time to play IS a privilege. Not everybody has that luxury. You also act like that $15 a month nets you everything the game has to offer. If that were the case then we shouldn't have to pay for each expansion when they come out.

It might even be best if, when you think about it, there was no lottery or gambling at all, and everyone could just own what they can afford since this is a video-game.

You're right, this is a video game and as such it is bound by its creator's vision for how they want things to be. If they had wanted everyone to just own what they could afford then they would have made it that way from the start.

[Necrotica]

Love this game but definitely the last square-enix game I will ever play. Don't like the idea that the money I put into this game goes to others.

[ElysiumDragon]

Instanced Housing with FC plots would be a gold mine for the Shells and gil sellers. These people have enough plots as is, giving them functionally infinite plots would drive gil inflation through the roof.

What you need to do is significantly tighten the restrictions on FC's buying homes to the point where creating Shells wouldn't be viable (MSQ completion up to and including 6.0 would suffice), clear out the existing shells as a matter of principle, and (maybe) raise the amount of gil required for a plot. 3 million is easily obtainable if you have any experience with crafting.

[Corvus_V]

Once again, never said impossible, just unlikely and the odds that they weren't going to add male viera in the future were already low so, bad example.

It's actually a decent example, but their absence was actually probably just something that translated well into Japan, so they complained about it there as well.

Didn't need to because they did the smart thing and went where the houses were instead of insisting there were none to be had.

Yeah alright. As if you weren't just making light of owning one in the first place earlier. They didn't have to go to a foreign DC to own one if all they got was a small anyway, so maybe it wasn't that smart after all.

Only if they get half of your gil plus alimony and I get a sizable retainer fee for being their representative.

Prenup. I take everything. The small just gets 3m or something. Or nothing if I go to Dynamis.

Again, if they REALLY wanted a house a small would suffice. Then once that's secure, go for a larger one.

The small doesn't suffice, whether you secure one or not, that's the argument and the reason they're going unpurchased.

Being able to afford the monthly fee plus price of expansions while also having the time to play IS a privilege. Not everybody has that luxury. You also act like that $15 a month nets you everything the game has to offer. If that were the case then we shouldn't have to pay for each expansion when they come out.

It's not a privilege to pay for something just because some people can't afford it. The playerbase doesn't need to be grateful, the creators should be grateful there's a playerbase. That's how they can also afford to waste it elsewhere. You can pay 15$ a month to continue playing even after the expac comes out whether you buy it or not, so that's a weird example; since it's an extra, seperate purchase. If they opted to make instanced houses seperate I'm sure people would pay for that.

You're right, this is a video game and as such it is bound by its creator's vision for how they want things to be. If they had wanted everyone to just own what they could afford then they would have made it that way from the start.

If this is the vision, the creator is blind and a sadist.
Also no, a neighborhood feeling is something that sounds great in theory. I can actually understand why they'd want to make something like that because on paper it sounds comfortable. Unfortunately, that's as far as it goes. Like describing a fire as warm, until you find out its burning your house to the floor, no pun intended.

[DiaDeem]

That's the only part of the goblet that looks nice. If you have a small in that area good for you. The rest of the goblet is trash-looking and I really don't understand why anyone likes a brown background. I guess this is just my opinion. If you and others like the goblet more power to you but I don't and I know a lot of ppl who feel the same way as me.