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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus_V View Post
    Your shtick is that you pay them to play and they use it to fund crap that doesn't take off and they put barely any of it back into the game, which makes you a sucker.
    Which is what you're also doing, but OK. If the game got to a stage where I was unhappy with it then I would quit. It's just that simple.

    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus_V View Post
    If they profit so much from FFXIV, the expectation should be that they make FFXIV better. I would be doing the same thing if I owned a large house, just like I was against placard spamming despite always owning one. I'm thankfully not an asshole, so I can care about things that aren't just myself.
    Expectations and reality often never meet. That's just the size of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus_V View Post
    You can direct that sentiment to everyone who wants a larger house, your egotistical-self included, since you have a medium.
    It was there, I was there, I had the money and bingo. I didn't go into it expecting a medium or any house and it wouldn't have bothered me if I hadn't gotten one at all. Circumstance doesn't equate ego. Going into it expecting to get one and then getting pissy when you don't kinda does though. If the medium wasn't an FC house I would sell it and use my small, but that's not how the system works.

    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus_V View Post
    All houses offer no benefit to the game's other content outside of the garden you put in the front, which was another facet of why they should be accessible to everyone, including people who want a large and have the gil to pay for it; who would then get to use 3 of them at once as opposed to 1 (so technically, you're incorrect). In addition to FC housing, which actually has no benefit to perservering on larger houses, since the company workshop is functionally the same; and again, mostly benefits itself as a content island in that an absolute ton of sub items are minions and other aesthetics like furnishings (for a house.) Or selling it for money.

    That was never in dispute. But acting like because it's not necessary to do anything else doesn't mean its not important or that it should be disregarded. It's pretentious and disingenous at best that you think that people who don't want smalls should be satisfied with them when this doesn't have to be the case.
    I never said it should be disregarded, but to openly scorn and disregard the majority of housing units because you personally think they suck is also pretentious and disengenous. As much as the old system sucked at least if you had a small you had a chance for an upgrade, but that wasn't good enough either apparently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus_V View Post
    Also more unhinged of you to change servers and then accuse people of pouting when they aren't content with SE not half-assing everything. Perhaps that's why it was so easy for you to leave.
    Ah, a ninja edited dig.

    You nothing about why I transfered servers, but please, do continue making assumptions.
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    Last edited by Joven; 01-23-2023 at 07:54 AM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    Which is what you're also doing, but OK. If the game got to a stage where I was unhappy with it then I would quit. It's just that simple.
    So the most desirable outcome is anyone who is unhappy with it should quit and unsub without saying anything. Smart.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    Expectations and reality often never meet. That's just the size of it.
    This is good how? What do you think feedback is for?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    It was there, I was there, I had the money and bingo. I didn't go into it expecting a medium or any house and it wouldn't have bothered me if I hadn't gotten one at all. Circumstance doesn't equate ego. Going into it expecting to get one and then getting pissy when you don't kinda does though. If the medium wasn't an FC house I would sell it and use my small, but that's not how the system works.
    You were allegedly there because you deliberately moved to a foreign DC for the purposes of getting a house. But I still think you're a cool cat for pretending it wasn't a big deal to you.
    There's also no benefit to owning a medium as an FC. You said it yourself. It's just ego. You spent the extra gil for nothing; not knowing about the gardening, I guess. That's not ego? Maybe you should choose your words a little more carefully instead of having an image problem about how seriously you take it because you want to appear stoic or something. I'm not interested in your fan club.


    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    I never said it should be disregarded, but to openly scorn and disregard the majority of housing units because you personally think they suck is also pretentious and disengenous. As much as the old system sucked at least if you had a small you had a chance for an upgrade, but that wasn't good enough either apparently.
    Jesus Christ. You're acting like I hurt the small's feelings. Do you want me to write an apology?
    It's pretentious to say they suck when they objectively have less space and lower decoration limits? It's not disingeous to insinuate that people who aren't happy given that fact should just be happy they get to have anything at all? Do you know what the words I use mean?

    I literally don't care about the old system and I would prefer if we stop talking about it because almost everyone seems to agree that the lottery is better, but the fact of the matter is is that it still sucks. The previous system supported RMT and house-trading and house-flipping. That's far less than ideal. I personally think relocation was fine, even in spite of that because I'd be capable of it due to the fact that I was willing to placard spam, and of the net 0 effect I'd have on land for relocating; but obviously they're both objectively bad because of the fact that people are displeased about the size distribution. I'd still be here talking shit about it even if placardspam/relo was still here, because there'd be an influx of people playing who simply can't participate in this part of the game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    Ah, a ninja edited dig.

    You nothing about why I transfered servers, but please, do continue making assumptions.
    You already told us why you transferred. I'm joking with you, but you want to be a cynic and assume anyone who is dissatisfied is just selfish and entitled if they dare to talk about it. If you'd refrain from white knighting the million dollar company by personally attacking people and making stupid assumptions about them as well, maybe someone in North America would've let you decorate their small house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus_V View Post
    So the most desirable outcome is anyone who is unhappy with it should quit and unsub without saying anything. Smart.



    This is good how? What do you think feedback is for?
    When did I ever say you should never say anything? The point is if it seems like they are moving in a direction you don't like no matter what you say then throwing a hissy fit serves no purpose. Your best bet is to just cut your losses.

    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus_V View Post
    You were allegedly there because you deliberately moved to a foreign DC for the purposes of getting a house. But I still think you're a cool cat for pretending it wasn't a big deal to you.
    There's also no benefit to owning a medium as an FC. You said it yourself. It's just ego. You spent the extra gil for nothing; not knowing about the gardening, I guess. That's not ego? Maybe you should choose your words a little more carefully instead of having an image problem about how seriously you take it because you want to appear stoic or something. I'm not interested in your fan club.
    I guess that one was on me not being specific. My friends were the ones who transfered for the housing and they convinced me to come along. To me housing was just a side interest. All I wanted was to play with my friends. So the reasoning is the same, but the target was not. My bad.


    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus_V View Post
    Jesus Christ. You're acting like I hurt the small's feelings. Do you want me to write an apology?
    Yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus_V View Post
    It's pretentious to say they suck when they objectively have less space and lower decoration limits? It's not disingeous to insinuate that people who aren't happy given that fact should just be happy they get to have anything at all? Do you know what the words I use mean?

    So you have a 1 in 25 million chance to win 1 of 3 prizes but because one of those prizes isn't quite as good as the others you complain. That is pretentious. It's like winning 10 million dollars and complaining because it's not 200 million.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    When did I ever say you should never say anything? The point is if it seems like they are moving in a direction you don't like no matter what you say then throwing a hissy fit serves no purpose. Your best bet is to just cut your losses.
    You imply it by continuously asserting that any actual solution is impossible and by misappropriating it to a small subset of people who take up a relatively also small subset of space considering all of the wards. Collectively, everyone does that by being a contrarian and defending their insular forum community from any kind of feedback just because you believe it will never do anything (which it does, and can, i.e male Viera.

    No. Though I'm fine with unsubbing. I'm personally fine with signal boosting and encouraging people to talk about it here as well as other platforms, as well as the validity of their concerns whilst people like you and the other guy who insinuated it was entitlement a few pages back exist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    I guess that one was on me not being specific. My friends were the ones who transfered for the housing and they convinced me to come along. To me housing was just a side interest. All I wanted was to play with my friends. So the reasoning is the same, but the target was not. My bad.
    Did you give them this talk too? Why didn't they just buy apartments?
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    yeah, i'll give him the wrap. but foist, i gotta wrap this FISH.