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  1. #201
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    Mr_Gyactus's Avatar
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    Rugiada Brightdawn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    For Mao it is place where friends and FC mate gather to socialize and craft. Having house is funs!
    ok, but Mao could use the FC house in Goblet for the same purpose, and invite friend/FCmate in his/her private room.

    The FC house has every perk a private house has, and more, and the "more" is very interesting.
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    I have 10,000 needles,
    I'm not a weaver,
    and I'm not scared to use them.

  2. #202
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    LianaThorne's Avatar
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    Lorelai Oshidari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    I mean, there already are story based requirements.

    Shirogane came out during Stormblood, which meant you needed to be at least level 62 (when the cap was 70) in order to get a house there. 1/4th of all housing slots were locked off otherwise.
    Likewise getting a house in Ishgard requires you to have completed Heavensward, so level 60.

    Whichever new housing district we get is likely going to require a level of at least 81, as the prime candidates are likely Sharlayan or Thavnair.
    You're not wrong but still can just buy a story skip and get access immediately and the same case will apply when 7.0 opens and we get a skip to Endwalker and higher level job skips.

    Locking it behind reqs like level, gil or story progress are irrelevant because they can be acquired with your credit card. The only actual way to lock people out is setting a req behind character age or account age which I doubt will happen because the backlash would be insane.

    Also, was a new district announced or are people just assuming we're getting a new one? Genuine question since I avoid LLs and the like.
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    Last edited by LianaThorne; 01-23-2023 at 03:31 AM.

  3. #203
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    Joven's Avatar
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    Jasmine Clayworth
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    Spriggan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus_V View Post
    You said it right here.:



    No one has any right to be pissed off at the addition of instanced housing so everyone can participate.
    "He said 'piss off a lot of people who already own houses' and since he has a house he's obviously refering to himself as well." Uh, no.

    I meant those who already have several houses ie: more than 2, but I shouldn't have to explain that. (I only have 2 FYI)

    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus_V View Post
    Because more wards is a stupid idea. Also no, they don't. Do you even play this game?
    So if plots never come available, like, at all, then what good is even the lottery system? Of course last I checked there were several open plots on the data center I'm on, but I've heard that idea was too much for some people. Unhinged even.

    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus_V View Post
    I know what their limitations are based on what already exists in the game whilst the server functions normally.
    So that makes you an expert on how their backend works and what loads their servers can and cannot handle during what events? Ok.

    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus_V View Post
    "Throwing money," which again, is a reductive and disingenously simple way of saying "pay people who develop the game to create a solution."
    It's almost as if resources, ie: time investment, hardware necessities and the such costs money. People certainly aren't going to do it for free. And before you say "they're already paid to do it", they're paid to make the game playable. The game is playable. Everything else takes extra effort which means more resources which means more money.

    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus_V View Post
    Sounds violent, like something someone unhinged would say. I never blamed you. I was giving you a thought exercise and pointing out how obviously shitty they've handled it.
    You were replying to this:
    What I offered wasn't meant to be the perfect solution, just a potential, active idea for those interested. Is it great? No, but neither is the situation at hand.
    and started with "And who's fault is that?" After randomly and falsely accusing me of taking the idea of instanced housing personally how else is that to be taken?

    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus_V View Post
    They gave everyone the lotto system as a sweeping change because they were too lazy to do anything better. This was the path of least resistance. I'm complaining about it so they address it.
    As I've said, everything you're saying here has been said almost ad infinitum for as long as housing has been in the game. They're already aware of it. If they were going to address it they already would have.
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    Last edited by Joven; 01-23-2023 at 03:47 AM.


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  4. #204
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    yoshikwalla's Avatar
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    Edge Faire
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    Mateus
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    ...Or we can stop with the damn band-aids and give it a complete revamp with instanced housing.
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  5. #205
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    RobynDaBank's Avatar
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    Hope Sunflame
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    I mean just because they haven't done it yet doesn't mean they never will...
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  6. #206
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    Mao Xifeng
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Gyactus View Post
    ok, but Mao could use the FC house in Goblet for the same purpose, and invite friend/FCmate in his/her private room.

    The FC house has every perk a private house has, and more, and the "more" is very interesting.
    But Mao also likes using Mao's house for this.
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  7. #207
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    "I'm not calling *you* unhinged, just your ideas. Totally different, teehee." Right.

    As I said to the person above, we can make all the proposed fixes we want, but until Squeenix themselves is ready to do what must be done it means nothing. What I offered wasn't meant to be the perfect solution, just a potential, active idea for those interested. Is it great? No, but neither is the situation at hand. At least I offered something you can do that's not just to continually slamming your head against the wall that is the housing market expecting it to suddenly get better. But sure, continue to scream into the void if it makes you feel better.
    It literally is different - someone smart can have a dumb idea, that doesn't mean they're dumb. I think the idea of data center transferring, especially to a foreign DC, is absolutely unhinged, and you're right, it IS an option. It's a horrible option born out of this terrible situation that Square has caused to happen. Unfortunately, we're stuck with it, cuz like you said in the part of the post I didn't quote, until Square decides to nut up, the situation is not going to be fixed but just have a bunch of bandaids applied to it. Until then, people have to either choose to not engage with housing, or keep trying (through whatever means they deem appropriate) and hope they eventually get lucky.

    And sure, people aren't strictly entitled to housing just for paying a sub, surely you can understand how frustrating it is for 1. the game to constantly throw free housing items at you, and 2. housing being one of the main draws of the game and only a handful of people actually get to participate in it.
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  8. #208
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    4clubbedace's Avatar
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    Viorel Amala
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    Imagine not winning a 1/4 chance lmao.
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  9. #209
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    You're not wrong but still can just buy a story skip and get access immediately and the same case will apply when 7.0 opens and we get a skip to Endwalker and higher level job skips.

    Locking it behind reqs like level, gil or story progress are irrelevant because they can be acquired with your credit card. The only actual way to lock people out is setting a req behind character age or account age which I doubt will happen because the backlash would be insane.

    Also, was a new district announced or are people just assuming we're getting a new one? Genuine question since I avoid LLs and the like.
    Oh I didn't mean to suggest that story based requirements make a difference, as you said, they don't.

    Nothing has been confirmed yet, but if the game as another 2 or 3 expansions left in it it's almost a certainty that at least one new housing district will appear at some point.
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  10. #210
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    Also, was a new district announced or are people just assuming we're getting a new one? Genuine question since I avoid LLs and the like.
    Someone posted it as a fact in the Housng subforum without providing any source other than "SE following their normal pattern" and it seems to have spread.

    Of course what little pattern we've had for district additions would indicate a new one coming in 8.1, not 7.0.

    To my knowledge, there's been no announcement made about additional housing beyond what will be part of the new worlds to be added later this year.
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