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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    "I'm not calling *you* unhinged, just your ideas. Totally different, teehee." Right.

    As I said to the person above, we can make all the proposed fixes we want, but until Squeenix themselves is ready to do what must be done it means nothing. What I offered wasn't meant to be the perfect solution, just a potential, active idea for those interested. Is it great? No, but neither is the situation at hand. At least I offered something you can do that's not just to continually slamming your head against the wall that is the housing market expecting it to suddenly get better. But sure, continue to scream into the void if it makes you feel better.
    It literally is different - someone smart can have a dumb idea, that doesn't mean they're dumb. I think the idea of data center transferring, especially to a foreign DC, is absolutely unhinged, and you're right, it IS an option. It's a horrible option born out of this terrible situation that Square has caused to happen. Unfortunately, we're stuck with it, cuz like you said in the part of the post I didn't quote, until Square decides to nut up, the situation is not going to be fixed but just have a bunch of bandaids applied to it. Until then, people have to either choose to not engage with housing, or keep trying (through whatever means they deem appropriate) and hope they eventually get lucky.

    And sure, people aren't strictly entitled to housing just for paying a sub, surely you can understand how frustrating it is for 1. the game to constantly throw free housing items at you, and 2. housing being one of the main draws of the game and only a handful of people actually get to participate in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    It literally is different - someone smart can have a dumb idea, that doesn't mean they're dumb. I think the idea of data center transferring, especially to a foreign DC, is absolutely unhinged, and you're right, it IS an option. It's a horrible option born out of this terrible situation that Square has caused to happen. Unfortunately, we're stuck with it, cuz like you said in the part of the post I didn't quote, until Square decides to nut up, the situation is not going to be fixed but just have a bunch of bandaids applied to it. Until then, people have to either choose to not engage with housing, or keep trying (through whatever means they deem appropriate) and hope they eventually get lucky.

    And sure, people aren't strictly entitled to housing just for paying a sub, surely you can understand how frustrating it is for 1. the game to constantly throw free housing items at you, and 2. housing being one of the main draws of the game and only a handful of people actually get to participate in it.
    It was always meant to be a limited item that people could aspire to attain with the market fluctuating as people lost theirs due to demos or moved to another ward. Plots were always supposed to open, but since people are greedy and were able to hoard houses because they didn't impose limits early on and the dev's need to capitulate and try to give everything to everyone through ever increasing ward capacities, they're left bailing water out of a sinking ship. It also didn't help that the population grew to what it is. It took me over 5 years just to be able to look in the direction of a house (mostly because when I started houses weren't even a thing) but even after they were it still took a good while. If I hadn't of gotten one it wouldn't have been a big deal. There's lots of things in the game I'll never get and I'm fine with that, though I agree it's dumb they keep using housing items as event rewards knowing housing is a point of contention
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    It was always meant to be a limited item that people could aspire to attain with the market fluctuating as people lost theirs due to demos or moved to another ward. Plots were always supposed to open, but since people are greedy and were able to hoard houses because they didn't impose limits early on and the dev's need to capitulate and try to give everything to everyone through ever increasing ward capacities, they're left bailing water out of a sinking ship. It also didn't help that the population grew to what it is. It took me over 5 years just to be able to look in the direction of a house (mostly because when I started houses weren't even a thing) but even after they were it still took a good while. If I hadn't of gotten one it wouldn't have been a big deal. There's lots of things in the game I'll never get and I'm fine with that, though I agree it's dumb they keep using housing items as event rewards knowing housing is a point of contention
    We're on the same page here. Like I said earlier, it's an awful situation by Square's own design. It just sucks that the players have to either keep beating their heads on a wall or resort to less than ideal solutions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    We're on the same page here. Like I said earlier, it's an awful situation by Square's own design. It just sucks that the players have to either keep beating their heads on a wall or resort to less than ideal solutions.
    If everyone was on the same page and they realize it's Square Enix's fault, and Square Enix's problem to fix, then we're on the same page. Moving to a foreign DC isn't a solution, its an act of desperation that doesn't even necessarily guarantee results, and exists as a detriment to every other facet of the game. There's a difference between a treatment and a cure, and more wards are barely a relief and definitely not a cure.

    Saying it's "meant to be limited" sucks. Everyone gets housing items, and everyone can technically put them in an apartment, and it being limited in the first place being a bad decision. It's not immersive, it's annoying.

    This is why I keep suggesting instanced housing. It's the only way for people to guarantee a use of those items. It already exists in the form of apartments, they just suck because they're small, and they lack an exterior, which technically doesn't have to be in an outside zone people walk past.

    Square can solve the problem. They need to talk about it.
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