Paladin needs to be overhauled

[RyanCousland]

PLD was actually one of the best if not the best AoE tank in ShB. I should know, I kept having the best damage tallies in feast up to diamond. Confiteor was just that good for it.

Which are what...? RPR and DNC LB?

And what does Confiteor have to do with purify?

So you're telling me if you're PLD LB is at the 100s mark and you get a debuff, your supposed to just wait and hope no one attacks you? And yeah those LBs too

Maybe I'm wrong but it sounded like you said confetti is a good substitute from previous PLD aoe if I am my apologies

[Valence]

You're telling me that you don't understand the insane advantage a CC or stun is on a target that's out of resources? Even with high HP? If it's being bursted down by your team, it's gonna drop in 2s if stunned. If you're not able to identify such targets and shield bash them, you'd be better off playing a different job I think. That your teamates use their debuffs and CC is totally irrelevant to that point, since yours is already ENOUGH to secure kills on its own. And yes indeed, I also that on other jobs as well, because that's how you should play stuns (Air anchor ready? Frozen ready? Silence is up? Polymorph? Keep and eye out for over exposed enemies that are being attacked by your team, stun them, watch them die instead of getting away). Shieldbash is one of those, and for that point alone, it makes it strong.

There is no playstyle I'm trying to impose, you're free to play however you like, but that is how the job is designed to perform the best. If you don't want to play it like that, then don't, but then don't complain that you're underperforming with it.

You can keep attacking my own experience with the job that you have literally no idea about as much as you want, it's just showing how unsecure you are about your own.

So you're telling me if you're PLD LB is at the 100s mark and you get a debuff, your supposed to just wait and hope no one attacks you? And yeah those LBs too

Maybe I'm wrong but it sounded like you said confetti is a good substitute from previous PLD aoe if I am my apologies

If you get a debuff, you use purify, that's as simple. Use LB if possible when Purify is ready. Purify will cleanse it and will give you 5s of cc immunity. If you get hit by miracle of nature, sucks to be you, like any other job, because that crap is broken, but at least you're still invulnerable and the best effects from your LB are still going on while they waste crap on you. Else, the only things I can see are those LBs (and MNK but lol if a MNK actually wastes theirs on you), and imo they're spending their LBs and not a spammable stun, so I consider this a decent trade. And using a long charging LB like Contradance during an enemy Phalanx would be totally stupid and wasted anyway.