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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    At the end of the day it's still the devs putting changes in place, down to every little detail. To say players are to blame when the power to make decisions is not in the players' hands whatsoever is just wrong. The devs make the game, hold them responsible for changes that are done (good and bad ones).
    Ok next time I see you cry about something I dont mind and it happens to be done in this game I know who exactly who to blame. Sure they make the decisions but ultimately its people who force their hand
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Ok next time I see you cry about something I dont mind and it happens to be done in this game I know who exactly who to blame. Sure they make the decisions but ultimately its people who force their hand
    TIL it's controversial with some people on here to think that the devs are responsible for what happens in game. Do you apply that only when people dont like something or do you also point out in threads celebrating the inclusion of a feature that they should actually not thank the devs but the players instead?
    Also what sort of gotcha is that first line supposed to be? Do you think I blamed you for the devs not putting every cutscene into the unending journal? But please, do encourage me to say the devs are the ones responsible for what gets put into the game. Not like I'm already doing that or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Ok next time I see you cry about something I dont mind and it happens to be done in this game I know who exactly who to blame. Sure they make the decisions but ultimately its people who force their hand
    No one is putting a gun to their heads and saying "DO THIS NOW" so I dunno what the hell you're on about lmfao.
    The devs, at the end of the day, have say. We don't have any ability to alter this games combat.
    They choose to water this game down and make it piss easy, for example. No one asked for this.
    A lot are actually sick of the same boring, generic predicable crap for 10 years.
    God forbid we're sick of it and want some change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jybril View Post
    No one is putting a gun to their heads and saying "DO THIS NOW" so I dunno what the hell you're on about lmfao.
    The devs, at the end of the day, have say. We don't have any ability to alter this games combat.
    They choose to water this game down and make it piss easy, for example. No one asked for this.
    A lot are actually sick of the same boring, generic predicable crap for 10 years.
    God forbid we're sick of it and want some change.
    People have indeed asked for this. Thats my main argument, nobody is pointing a gun at them rather, a majority of players have been asking for a lot of things that shift into the direction of the state of the current game, me included. If that wasnt the case then we wouldnt even be providing feedback in the first place.

    There's a lot of neat ideas that this game previously had like dungeons being more explorable, elemental resistances, cross-class skills, normal raids that had some bit of exploration etc and yet all of those slowly got axed over the years because the majority didnt necessarily like them which shifted focus and direction of what the game is now.
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