It's time (Option to Hide other players Glamour)

[Jin-]

WoT has a nice option to hide "clown" customizations. It's entirely optional to use. It disables player skin (decals, camos etc...) customization and defaults it to how it was originally in the game.

[Kolaina]

Yes, that's the entire point of the glamour system.

And not simply my own glamours, but everyone's glamours. Even if I don't like someone's glamours, they should be able to express themselves as they like with cosmetics available in the game.

The point of the glamour system is to make an aesthetic pleasing to you for you. Not of you for everyone else.

[Bobby66]

Both.
Id still think its unnecessary and silly. BUT if it was implemented, ah well, its there.
Not like I have any real power here, I just play the game like all of you, its up to YoshiP, the Devs & SE is it actually happens or not.
My Opinion on the matter is just that.

What those in favor of the feature are trying to say is that while you have your opinion, the facts remain that said feature would only detract from ones personal experience if they choose to let it. Being as it would be a 100% optional feature it does not inherently take anything way from others in a world where it could be added without any negative. Granted that world is not real but I hope you get where I am coming from.

[Zabuza]

After all these pages, I still don't understand.

I'm told to 'look away', if I don't like someone's glamour. If I do that, I am controlling my visual experience of them on my screen. I am altering their expression on my screen because they are no longer visible. They are likely not aware of it. This is apparently fine.

If a measure is proposed to block certain glamours that someone is wearing on my screen(for example a giant frog or pig), I am altering their expression on my screen because the frog/pig suit is no longer visible. Since it is my screen only, they are likely not aware of it. Yet apparently, this is not fine. This is a problem.

Can anyone explain this to me?

[Xylira]

I think you and I engage with the glamour system on entirely different levels.

I use the glamour system to make my character look the way I like because I think it looks cool. Not so I can MAKE people look at it. The glamour system is in place in case you do not like the way your current gear looks together or you want a particular aesthetic for YOUR character. Not as a forced experience for others.


People are welcome to express themselves however they wish.. but what you're espousing is forced engagement with everyone in a medium that easily could accommodate other options but because if the system doesn't MAKE people see you it's worth less?
Do you have the same problem with instanced maps? People are in the same area.. shouldn't they be FORCED to see you if you're there? Is not having your character represented on ALL instances censoring you?

You're doing a significant amount of reading into my meaning based off of such a short post. I said no such thing about forcing people to engage with me or my character.

It's not a matter of me needing my character to be seen, it's a matter of if my character is seen that there is a particular way I want them to be seen as looking. No one is being forced to look at my character, nor would I want them to be. Again, this is the entire point of the glamour system, otherwise glamours would have been designed to only be seen by the person using them.

This is also a bit of an odd position to take as well. Do you consider when you're out in public in real life that the other people around are forcing you to look at them? No, they're just going about their business and have dressed the way they chose to dress that day, and they've dressed that way because it's how they would like others to see them. I don't see the glamour system being any different.

And yes you could make an argument about inappropriate attire. But I'll defer back to the point that I consider anything SE has added to the game outfit wise as within the bounds of appropriate, otherwise they shouldn't have added it into the game as obtainable and glamourable attire if they deemed otherwise.

[Xylira]

The point of the glamour system is to make an aesthetic pleasing to you for you. Not of you for everyone else.

Then why do you see other people's glamours when they apply them?

[Kolaina]

Then why do you see other people's glamours when they apply them?

Why do you seek such validation via glamour? Is it narcissism?

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

What those in favor of the feature are trying to say is that while you have your opinion, the facts remain that said feature would only detract from ones personal experience if they choose to let it. Being as it would be a 100% optional feature it does not inherently take anything way from others in a world where it could be added without any negative. Granted that world is not real but I hope you get where I am coming from.

And I have conceded that its not up to me if it happens or not. If its implemented, thats up to the Devs, Director and Company, regardless of anybodies thoughts or opinions.
The negative remains, its still time away from other features they could be working on, but again thats just opinion and not up to any of us in the end.

Can anyone explain this to me?

I need an explanation why you cant just go about your day and not be bothered by other peoples glamours / Fashion.
Why do we need a feature to hide others glamours, when you can just look away and ignore it?

Why do you seek such validation via glamour? Is it narcissism?

This...doesn't really answer their Question.
They aren't even seeking Validation...they asked; basically...if your Claim is true that "The point of the glamour system is to make an aesthetic pleasing to you for you. Not of you for everyone else." then the question is... "...if that is true, Then why do you see other people's glamours when they apply them?"
Calling it narcissism...isn't an answer...

[Zabuza]

I need an explanation why you cant just go about your day and not be bothered by other peoples glamours / Fashion.
Why do we need a feature to hide others glamours, when you can just look away and ignore it?

So your reply to my question is a question, instead of answering? You're essentially telling me that I'm not allowed to be bothered by something and simultaneously conceding that there's no harm in implementing this feature. You're advocating for me to 'look away' which would alter their visual appearance on my screen, since they would be gone from my screen. Yet you won't stomach the thought of being able to hide glamours.

I guess people should just not be bothered about anything, then. Don't be bothered that headware for Viera/Hrothgar still hasn't been fixed, or any plethora of other grievances aired on these forums. These people should just not be bothered and go about their day.

[Eisi]

It needs to be an equal exchange I think.

If you want to display other characters in generic attire, you'd have to in turn forfeit being able to show off your glamour to others and appear in genetic attire on their screens as well.