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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeronia View Post
    Honestly it just feels like I am playing the expansion Trial series as the MSQ. That isn't to say trial series are bad as I loved most of them just the pacing isn't really MSQ levels but more in line with how trial series have done their pacing previously. It just feels really off for the MSQ to me when it comes to Zero's character development and it feeling like it was speed ran.
    Interestingly, a lot of people believed the Golbez + Four Fiends cliffhanger at the end of 6.1 being that of the EW trial story series. Which would've been a first for the game as far as Im aware since they normally never hint at any of the extra trials in msq, only normal raids series. So its kinda of a given that many people would feel that way with post-EW story.

    But isnt that kinda the point of it? I mean we already defeated this cosmic being of despair and the story team already discussed that the conflict would be winding down; especially with this story hopefully bridging what we would eventually expect with the start of the new story arc in 7.0. So while its understandable to feel like post-EW isnt that much to run home around (which of course it is) its also kinda stupid to compare it to say the build up in previous post-expansion stories. So far the void story, along with Azdaja is relatively a minor conflict that we just decided to stumble upon. Im just currently interested where they're taking it and see what's the next big thing to come and thats all I need for now with post-EW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Interestingly, a lot of people believed the Golbez + Four Fiends cliffhanger at the end of 6.1 being that of the EW trial story series. Which would've been a first for the game as far as Im aware since they normally never hint at any of the extra trials in msq, only normal raids series. So its kinda of a given that many people would feel that way with post-EW story.

    But isnt that kinda the point of it? I mean we already defeated this cosmic being of despair and the story team already discussed that the conflict would be winding down; especially with this story hopefully bridging what we would eventually expect with the start of the new story arc in 7.0. So while its understandable to feel like post-EW isnt that much to run home around (which of course it is) its also kinda stupid to compare it to say the build up in previous post-expansion stories. So far the void story, along with Azdaja is relatively a minor conflict that we just decided to stumble upon. Im just currently interested where they're taking it and see what's the next big thing to come and thats all I need for now with post-EW.
    While I do understand that you can still have low stakes and be a great story that is properly paced like 4.2-4.3 with Yotsuyu's arc. I also am just not a fan of what thus far appears to be copy paste FF4 characters/plot in the MSQ, I expect that from side stories but not the main scenario. It just feels like somehow nothing is happening with the big bad's plot and yet we are rushing through everything with Zero at the same time for some reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeronia View Post
    While I do understand that you can still have low stakes and be a great story that is properly paced like 4.2-4.3 with Yotsuyu's arc. I also am just not a fan of what thus far appears to be copy paste FF4 characters/plot in the MSQ, I expect that from side stories but not the main scenario. It just feels like somehow nothing is happening with the big bad's plot and yet we are rushing through everything with Zero at the same time for some reason.
    The only copy-pasted story with FF4 are just the characters alone. Nothing in the story is beat for beat a plot point from FFIV. We didnt climb Mt.Ordeals for our WoL to become a Paladin only to get ambushed by Scarmiglione, we didnt climb the Tower of Zot to save a Scion only to get ambushed by Barbariccia, the twins didnt sacrifice themselves when Cagnazzo showed up at the last minute and Rubicante didnt guard the crystals at the Tower of Babel. Again, the story presented is original with the whole aspect of the void and the 13th, just with some FFIV flavor characters slapped into it with new meaning. The FF games have done this crap before and nobody complained about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    The only copy-pasted story with FF4 are just the characters alone. Nothing in the story is beat for beat a plot point from FFIV. We didnt climb Mt.Ordeals for our WoL to become a Paladin only to get ambushed by Scarmiglione, we didnt climb the Tower of Zot to save a Scion only to get ambushed by Barbariccia, the twins didnt sacrifice themselves when Cagnazzo showed up at the last minute and Rubicante didnt guard the crystals at the Tower of Babel. Again, the story presented is original with the whole aspect of the void and the 13th, just with some FFIV flavor characters slapped into it with new meaning. The FF games have done this crap before and nobody complained about it.
    People forget that the FF series is self-referential. Tropes, characters, scenes and dialogue are often repeated for the sake of references and nostalgia. Outside of Gilgamesh who for the most part is the same character every time you see him (barring specific encounters), FF14 does what other FF games do when it comes to moments and stuff from the previous installments.

    If people don't know, there's a page for more recent games in the FF wiki called "Allusions" that document these moments for you.

    Sometimes FF14 does spend a whole lot of time focused on one installment, but it's not to the point of plagiarism.

    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    Doubt it. That guy lives in his own world and anything outside that doesn't exist. I seriously think the dude is mentally ill.
    No, his ego is just mammoth sized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    The only copy-pasted story with FF4 are just the characters alone. Nothing in the story is beat for beat a plot point from FFIV. We didnt climb Mt.Ordeals for our WoL to become a Paladin only to get ambushed by Scarmiglione, we didnt climb the Tower of Zot to save a Scion only to get ambushed by Barbariccia, the twins didnt sacrifice themselves when Cagnazzo showed up at the last minute and Rubicante didnt guard the crystals at the Tower of Babel. Again, the story presented is original with the whole aspect of the void and the 13th, just with some FFIV flavor characters slapped into it with new meaning. The FF games have done this crap before and nobody complained about it.
    We also didn't get back stabbed by Estinien cause something felt like brainwashing him again while having to deal with a deamon door all because he also has feelings the person we have high romantic feelings for. Or thar we had to fight someone's dead and semi brainwashed parents that beg us to kill them before fighting Rubicante. Though I guess the fighting dead parents part could happen in 6.4.
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