Thread: Review of 6.3 Story Content

Let's be honest, how many of us have the same reaction?

id call him a wombat, but I dont want to upset the little guy....

Originally Posted by Sekundessounet

LMAO, I checked OP's "reddit answer edit", and it's mostly just the same guy he screenshoted over and over.

Tinfoil hat theory the person they screenshot is probably OPs Reddit user :P I am going to believe that in my fanfiction of this user's habits and responses lol

Originally Posted by CStrife912

Tinfoil hat theory the person they screenshot is probably OPs Reddit user :P I am going to believe that in my fanfiction of this user's habits and responses lol

That would be quite sad, so I'm gonna say no. It does seem that they want validation from a wider array of people though.
It's too bad because some points are actually valid I feel, but it's just drowned in vitriol and self-righteousness, so it becomes unhearable.

Originally Posted by Xeronia

While I do understand that you can still have low stakes and be a great story that is properly paced like 4.2-4.3 with Yotsuyu's arc. I also am just not a fan of what thus far appears to be copy paste FF4 characters/plot in the MSQ, I expect that from side stories but not the main scenario. It just feels like somehow nothing is happening with the big bad's plot and yet we are rushing through everything with Zero at the same time for some reason.

The only copy-pasted story with FF4 are just the characters alone. Nothing in the story is beat for beat a plot point from FFIV. We didnt climb Mt.Ordeals for our WoL to become a Paladin only to get ambushed by Scarmiglione, we didnt climb the Tower of Zot to save a Scion only to get ambushed by Barbariccia, the twins didnt sacrifice themselves when Cagnazzo showed up at the last minute and Rubicante didnt guard the crystals at the Tower of Babel. Again, the story presented is original with the whole aspect of the void and the 13th, just with some FFIV flavor characters slapped into it with new meaning. The FF games have done this crap before and nobody complained about it.

Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

Lo and behold the response to this patch on Reddit. Really interesting stuff here compared to the usual posts on there:

Could you link to the actual thread? Not to accuse you of cherry picking...but you MIGHT be cherry picking and I'd like to verify.

This patch was kind of filler. That's what happens from time to time, usually to build up to something. That's fine. You apparently hate the entire cast of characters - Y'Shtola, G'raha, Alphie, Alies, Krile, any scholarly character (I assume since you didn't note any you didn't hate as an example of how it's been done better), and you're very clearly jaded/biased against EW as a whole. EW isn't the most controversial expansion in the game's history. Depending on how you want to count, SB and 1.0 both were more controversial, and EW is still mostly regarded by the community as being better than SB so far.

I get you led with this is your opinion, but then you started talking like it was facts and anyone who disagrees is wrong, and then you made the strange decision to say that people couldn't tell you this forum was negatively biased...by going to Reddit, one of the most negative places on the internet. Not sure (because you didn't provide a link) if your thread was from ffxiv or ffxivdiscussion, but ffxiv tends to downvote anything that isn't a commission or praising either Emet, Hythlo, or G'Raha, and ffxivdiscussion...has weird downvote/upvote patterns.

Needless to say, things aren't nearly as bad as you make them out to be. It's filler, but it was okay for filler. And your opinions aren't universal, and likely aren't even the majority. Not sure how else to say it. /shrug

Your opinion isn't WRONG...for an opinion. But it's clear you're pretty jaded and not appraising this neutrally.

Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

The only copy-pasted story with FF4 are just the characters alone. Nothing in the story is beat for beat a plot point from FFIV. We didnt climb Mt.Ordeals for our WoL to become a Paladin only to get ambushed by Scarmiglione, we didnt climb the Tower of Zot to save a Scion only to get ambushed by Barbariccia, the twins didnt sacrifice themselves when Cagnazzo showed up at the last minute and Rubicante didnt guard the crystals at the Tower of Babel. Again, the story presented is original with the whole aspect of the void and the 13th, just with some FFIV flavor characters slapped into it with new meaning. The FF games have done this crap before and nobody complained about it.

People forget that the FF series is self-referential. Tropes, characters, scenes and dialogue are often repeated for the sake of references and nostalgia. Outside of Gilgamesh who for the most part is the same character every time you see him (barring specific encounters), FF14 does what other FF games do when it comes to moments and stuff from the previous installments.

If people don't know, there's a page for more recent games in the FF wiki called "Allusions" that document these moments for you.

Sometimes FF14 does spend a whole lot of time focused on one installment, but it's not to the point of plagiarism.

Originally Posted by Renalt

Doubt it. That guy lives in his own world and anything outside that doesn't exist. I seriously think the dude is mentally ill.

No, his ego is just mammoth sized.

We still paying attention to Aveyond and his soapbox? The guy who once said that women who are a 3 shouldn't criticise hotter guys who are an 8? There are plenty of other people who can point out the faults of the game while having a measured, sane response - engage with those folks instead, not the old guy shaking his walking stick ranting at the clouds.

No, his ego is just mammoth sized.

On behalf of all mammoths , I OBJECT

Originally Posted by astercantus

We still paying attention to Aveyond and his soapbox? The guy who once said that women who are a 3 shouldn't criticise hotter guys who are an 8? There are plenty of other people who can point out the faults of the game while having a measured, sane response - engage with those folks instead, not the old guy shaking his walking stick ranting at the clouds.

I just needed some salt for my popcorn. It's about all he's good for.

Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

I just needed some salt for my popcorn. It's about all he's good for.

It's entertaining while bored at work too.