Request: Adjust Attack Magic AOE

[Coglin]

To leverage the same statement you so willfully used, if you yourself cannot comprehend the logic behind differences in UI/mechanics and the inconvenience they cause for groups for who have succeeded where you have not then maybe you ought to brush up on critical thinking.

If you think the position lock you would incur while trying to move your little AoE target circle on the ground would make AoEs more effectiant, I believe your poorly mistaken. Especially if lag of any kind occurs at that particular time. Not to mention that the added graphics and spell control information being transfered, would in itself induce more lag in general.

Looking at that as a whole, I don't see many players finding that system more effeciant, reguardless of what content they have completed.

Also, I love your eletist mentality about it. Nothing says please work with me ans see my point like telling others ther opition has no value compared to yours because you completed 1 dungeon they have not. Nor does it qualify you to be more familiar with AoE mechanics or make you more qualfied to deem how they need to be changed.

[Oniji]

+1 for ground targeting circle for AOE spells.

more than making it less annoying to cast on packs of low health mobs, it would also make it more precise and not defined by the actions of the mob being targeted.

[Yves]

If you think the position lock you would incur while trying to move your little AoE target circle on the ground would make AoEs more effectiant, I believe your poorly mistaken. Especially if lag of any kind occurs at that particular time. Not to mention that the added graphics and spell control information being transfered, would in itself induce more lag in general.

Looking at that as a whole, I don't see many players finding that system more effeciant, reguardless of what content they have completed.

Also, I love your eletist mentality about it. Nothing says please work with me ans see my point like telling others ther opition has no value compared to yours because you completed 1 dungeon they have not. Nor does it qualify you to be more familiar with AoE mechanics or make you more qualfied to deem how they need to be changed.

Wow...I think we are talking about two separate ideas altogether. From what I am seeing in your posts you are under the impression that the request is for AoE spells to be made as a "ground target" attack. The post is simply asking for AoE spells to continue casting on the given target even after the target has died.

And no, I am not devaluing you as a person for having not completed the dungeon - I am devaluing your opinion because the request has been to accommodate situations which you have not completed successfully, therefore, your actual first-hand experience with the topic may be limited.

Also, I wouldn't be so inclined to point all this out had you not made an inflammatory statement which insinuates your very accusation that "you're doing it wrong, practice more - I'm better." Believe me, results are a fairly reasonable (although not the most important) indicator of whether or not something is being done "right." Maybe it was not your intention to communicate this but that is how it was presented.

[Jinko]

Ok how about if AoE's lock onto the ground under the monster you are targeting.

FFT style :O

[Yves]

Ok how about if AoE's lock onto the ground under the monster you are targeting.

FFT style :O

Haha! I like my solution best but hey, if people prefer this and it enhances the community and also corrects the problem, why not?!

I was also under the impression that they were going to have the groundcasting as a component of the ill-fated Arcanist job. Can't recall where I heard that, though...

[Felis]

Give us ground target AoE

Ok how about if AoE's lock onto the ground under the monster you are targeting.

FFT style :O

I like it
And maybe like the old "AoE/Single" button a "Unit Aoe/Ground AoE" button ^^

[Quatre]

Coglin you should just stop now, before you're completely obliterated.

On topic: I think a nice combination could be what has suggested in this thread, with what was already in this game. Do you remember Original Ancient Magic? You would start casting it, and the spell would go off around the positioning of whatever you were casting on in the beginning of the spell. Regardless of HP or anything. The intial Cast/ Target was only there to establish the position of the spell.


This is clearly already in the game since we used it for Ancient Magic. It could be a nice fix to re implement this for AE's atm. (I'm not a programmer so I have no clue what the costs/ effort that would require to re implement that casting style)

[RinMorikaze]

Your logic is that because someone hasn't completed content that they havenever experienced it? Thats Brilliant, with intuitive thinking like that, you should get a government job.

Have you ever butchered a cow before Yves? I am guessing you have not. That doesn't mean it is impossible for you to factually know that its where beef comes from.

I mean, thispoint, it reads as if your wanting them to adjust a game dynamic to accomidate you and your wants for a very specific piece of content. Thats not feasable.

Actually, what Yves means is more akin to, "Have you ever butchered a cow? No? Do you know how to properly cut each piece?" Rather than, knowing where the beef comes from.

Anywho, the AoE situation is quite annoying. I personally am in favor of the cast going off on a dead mob if the cast was already in progress. I also wouldn't mind a ground indicator showing you who would actually get hit. Or at least some type of indicator of who will get hit, not just on spells but any AoE ability. I find it amusing when someone uses an AoE ability only to end up hitting things they didn't intend to. I can see how that part would be based on situation awareness but still... would be nice.

[Peptaru]

I think it is fine the way it is, they have some of the handy self-target spells and spells that you know can fizzle if the target dies. This is one of the few "in-depth type" actions in the game. One of the very few things you need to pay attention to in it. Changing this would make things even simpler, easier, and baser than they are now.

A UI issue it might be, but it is nothing that can't be overcome with the simplest implementation of strategy/tactics. It's rare I agree with certain people (you know who you are), but the set up is fine as it is IMO.

[RinMorikaze]

I understand where you're coming from Pepper, but it is a bit difficult to pay attention to things you can't see. Such as who your fellow players are casting on in a jumble of mobs. Also difficult to see how many or what mobs their spell or ability are going to hit and how much it's going to hit for.

I don't mind if they don't change it, but I'd like them to.