Request: Adjust Attack Magic AOE

[Yves]

Your logic is that because someone hasn't completed content that they havenever experienced it? Thats Brilliant, with intuitive thinking like that, you should get a government job.

Have you ever butchered a cow before Yves? I am guessing you have not. That doesn't mean it is impossible for you to factually know that its where beef comes from.

I mean, thispoint, it reads as if your wanting them to adjust a game dynamic to accomidate you and your wants for a very specific piece of content. Thats not feasable.

On the contrary, my logic is that those who are addressing tasks specified that they have not successfully completed ought not to comment the in a matter-of-fact manner.

This is reflected in your analogy of butchering. Yes, I sure can know where a T-bone steak comes from but that doesn't mean I should tell the butcher how to do the job. Nor should a parent with no educational experience lecture a teacher on how to teach a classroom full of children. Certainly, the parent understands the base dynamics of the task but, since they are limited in scope, they ought to only raise questions and make possible suggestions - not make statements that are broad and in a factual manner.

Regardless of all that, I understand and respect your position (despite disagreeing with it.) What I don't respect or accept is the insinuation that "If your incapable of learning to adjust to that, perhaps you need more practice."

To leverage the same statement you so willfully used, if you yourself cannot comprehend the logic behind differences in UI/mechanics and the inconvenience they cause for groups for who have succeeded where you have not then maybe you ought to brush up on critical thinking.

In short, "you're out of your element, Donnie."

[Coglin]

To leverage the same statement you so willfully used, if you yourself cannot comprehend the logic behind differences in UI/mechanics and the inconvenience they cause for groups for who have succeeded where you have not then maybe you ought to brush up on critical thinking.

If you think the position lock you would incur while trying to move your little AoE target circle on the ground would make AoEs more effectiant, I believe your poorly mistaken. Especially if lag of any kind occurs at that particular time. Not to mention that the added graphics and spell control information being transfered, would in itself induce more lag in general.

Looking at that as a whole, I don't see many players finding that system more effeciant, reguardless of what content they have completed.

Also, I love your eletist mentality about it. Nothing says please work with me ans see my point like telling others ther opition has no value compared to yours because you completed 1 dungeon they have not. Nor does it qualify you to be more familiar with AoE mechanics or make you more qualfied to deem how they need to be changed.

[Yves]

If you think the position lock you would incur while trying to move your little AoE target circle on the ground would make AoEs more effectiant, I believe your poorly mistaken. Especially if lag of any kind occurs at that particular time. Not to mention that the added graphics and spell control information being transfered, would in itself induce more lag in general.

Looking at that as a whole, I don't see many players finding that system more effeciant, reguardless of what content they have completed.

Also, I love your eletist mentality about it. Nothing says please work with me ans see my point like telling others ther opition has no value compared to yours because you completed 1 dungeon they have not. Nor does it qualify you to be more familiar with AoE mechanics or make you more qualfied to deem how they need to be changed.

Wow...I think we are talking about two separate ideas altogether. From what I am seeing in your posts you are under the impression that the request is for AoE spells to be made as a "ground target" attack. The post is simply asking for AoE spells to continue casting on the given target even after the target has died.

And no, I am not devaluing you as a person for having not completed the dungeon - I am devaluing your opinion because the request has been to accommodate situations which you have not completed successfully, therefore, your actual first-hand experience with the topic may be limited.

Also, I wouldn't be so inclined to point all this out had you not made an inflammatory statement which insinuates your very accusation that "you're doing it wrong, practice more - I'm better." Believe me, results are a fairly reasonable (although not the most important) indicator of whether or not something is being done "right." Maybe it was not your intention to communicate this but that is how it was presented.

[Coglin]

Wow...I think we are talking about two separate ideas altogether. From what I am seeing in your posts you are under the impression that the request is for AoE spells to be made as a "ground target" attack. The post is simply askingIfor AoE spells to continue casting on the given target even after the target has died.
I see what your saying, my apologies, someone else mentioned another idea and I applied it to our discussion.
I am devaluing your opinion because the request has been to accommodate situations which you have not completed successfully, therefore, your actual first-hand experience with the topic may be limited.

just because I have not completed the content does not mean I have not experienced it. Not to mention, we do not need to adjust game mechanics for every single piece of in game content we add. And so far someone has asked for a game mechanic change for every piece of content.

that being said, I disagree with your idea. If the target I had My AoE on dies, In many situation, I would prefere to retarget to focus the range of my AoE to adjust for dead mobs to maximize its damage value.

Now As far as your comment about

I wouldn't be so inclined to point all this out had you not made an inflammatory statement

is a load of crap. You dont make a thread, then when someone disagrees, post that they are not permitted to have an opinion even if they have experienced the comment, because you did not complete it. Then attempt to accuse them of being the one to initiate inflamitory comments.

[Yves]

Now As far as your comment about is a load of crap. You dont make a thread, then when someone disagrees, post that they are not permitted to have an opinion even if they have experienced the comment, because you did not complete it. Then attempt to accuse them of being the one to initiate inflamitory comments.

Your said opinion was immediately inflammatory in nature. I don't know if I can possibly give any more "outs" for you to walk away and let it go without having you make yourself look even more obstinate, uneducated, and unreasonable.

I think I see what's going on here, Coglin - you made a snarky remark and it made you feel good about yourself and then it ended up backfiring. Now you're coming back and forth, trying to re-validate yourself. This is pretty entertaining, however, I'm starting to feel like I'm playing dodgeball with a deaf and blind kid.

Good luck, take care.

On-topic: seems like there is more desire for all casting to be AoE-ground. And someone also mentioned the "on/off" function which was one of the few things I liked about the mage classes before the overhaul.

[Coglin]

You may continue to bash me for disagreeing with you all you like. I still disagree and I see no need to make a change to the current AoE mechanic. I like the system as it is, and have no desire to see it changed.

You do not have to like it, or agree with it. Its my opinion.

I think I see what's going on here, You feel like your particularly special, and your opinion is of higher value the anyone disagreeing with you. Proven by your lashing out and exclaiming that anyone who has not completed a single particular dungeon has no right to have an opinion. Just because you misinterprete a comment as "snarky" does not make it inflamitory. Your comment on the other hand was a very specific direct personal attack.

Your hipocrocy is actually rather impressive.