PLD changes; thoughts?

[Gserpent]

given how psychotic The Gamers(tm) can be, and how some of them are going to harass game developers on social media for the most innocuous things, the devs are more than justified in not wanting to deal with them in the weeks before a major patch.

Instead, they get harassed for *not* providing the information. Or, the opposite happens and they harass them because they think that because Yoshida appears on PLL's and does what is effectively marketing for the upcoming patch, they are best buddies and stuff.

Ever wonder how Blizzard handles people on the internet being upset? They just ignore them.

[Melethron123]

Instead, they get harassed for *not* providing the information. Or, the opposite happens and they harass them because they think that because Yoshida appears on PLL's and does what is effectively marketing for the upcoming patch, they are best buddies and stuff.

Ever wonder how Blizzard handles people on the internet being upset? They just ignore them.

you wanna use Blizzard as an example of how game devs should behave?

[aodhan_ofinnegain]

you wanna use Blizzard as an example of how game devs should behave?

I was thinking the same thing lol wonder how many SA allegations did Blizzard ignore? guess Blizzard have a nasty habit of ignoring a lot of things, huh

[Absurdity]

you wanna use Blizzard as an example of how game devs should behave?

Let's take a different example then that doesn't have the same amount of baggage, Bungie.

Say what you want about Destiny 2 but they give you updates about the game every week (called This Week at Bungie), they talk about new additions, upcoming changes, community events, etc.

And when they plan to make major changes to the game they explain in detail what they're changing and why they're doing it. They absolutely get shit for some of the changes from Angry Gamers™ but it hasn't stopped them from doing it.

[Melethron123]

Let's take a different example then that doesn't have the same amount of baggage, Bungie.

Say what you want about Destiny 2 but they give you updates about the game every week (called This Week at Bungie), they talk about new additions, upcoming changes, community events, etc.

And when they plan to make major changes to the game they explain in detail what they're changing and why they're doing it. They absolutely get shit for some of the changes from Angry Gamers™ but it hasn't stopped them from doing it.

maybe if they spent more time working on the game instead of doing these little videos they wouldn't have to delete content people paid for

[Absurdity]

maybe if they spent more time working on the game instead of doing these little videos they wouldn't have to delete content people paid for

*slow clap* you really got me there...except that has literally nothing to do with my point.
The removal of old content was also explained and while I find it just as baffling as pretty much everyone else that paid for the content back then that is a completely different discussion.

The entire point is that whether or not you like the changes they're making is irrelevant in this case. Just like I hate some decisions that CBU3 makes I also hate a lot of decisions that Bungie makes.

The difference is that one of them gives you a detailed explanation in advance on what they're changing, how the changes will look, why they're doing it and the thought process behind those changes...while the other does not.

Granted in 6.1 we finally got at least some explanations in the patch notes as to why they're making job changes in the first place, but it's not quite where it should be. Some of the most divisive changes are often dropped on players on patch day without a proper explanation.

[ForsakenRoe]

Granted in 6.1 we finally got at least some explanations in the patch notes as to why they're making job changes in the first place, but it's not quite where it should be. Some of the most divisive changes are often dropped on players on patch day without a proper explanation.

The 'explanations' are nice but they're nowhere near the level of detail I, and probably many others, were hoping for. We get 'Because Warrior is not dealing as much damage as it's counterparts, we have increased potency on its actions', whereas I'd hope for more like 'We have noticed that, while Warrior does very solid damage during it's burst windows, it's damage outside of those windows is lacking. As such, we have increased the potency on it's combo skills such as Storm's Eye and Maim. We believe this will help to increase it's damage during the downtime between burst opportunities, and will continue to monitor the data, and make additional changes if they are needed.'

It'd also be nice if we saw reasoning why we DON'T see changes for certain classes. If MCH isn't getting buffed despite being so behind it's role counterparts, I would at least like to know why that's the case. And the 6 or so remaining MCH mains would probably like to know too

[Espon]

Honestly it will depend how it melds into gameplay and the 2min meta (boooo)

I suspect thats the purpose of the cookie cutter change - I am curious how Bulwark will effect stuff and our loss of Sheltron.

Holy Sheltron will probably be changed to 15% damage reduction for 8 seconds instead of 100% block chance, in additional its other current effects. 5% less DR than blocking but we'll still be able to randomly block attacks on top of this.

Bulwark will likely just be similar to what Sheltron currently does, granting us 100% chance to block for 10 seconds with a 60-90 cooldown, granting 20% damage reduction against non-bleeds.

The numbers might be slightly different than from what I'm assuming.

maybe if they spent more time working on the game instead of doing these little videos they wouldn't have to delete content people paid for

Yes, because it requires Bungie's entire development team to create a short video.

[Fryfor]

Instead, they get harassed for *not* providing the information. Or, the opposite happens and they harass them because they think that because Yoshida appears on PLL's and does what is effectively marketing for the upcoming patch, they are best buddies and stuff.

Ever wonder how Blizzard handles people on the internet being upset? They just ignore them.

I hope they take that to heart with some of the takes you've posted recently. Might do the game better.

[aodhan_ofinnegain]

But still, when we've known for years, what the outcome will be in regards to prelim patch notes vs final patch notes, why are people shocked and angered, that there is no job adjustments in the prelim, like seriously do people have nothing better to do than cry and b**** all day about something that they know is going to happen, then happens, honestly it's the most idiotic thing I've seen in a while.

"but this developer does this, or that developer does that" okay go play that developer's game instead if you're not happy, but SE aren't obligated to follow what every other developer do.

And seriously, if you can't wait three days after preliminary patch notes, even though you know this is how it works, then that's on you, not the developer.