PLD changes; thoughts?

[Absurdity]

Isn’t that just because the blade combo occupies the gcds where you reapply goring in the shadowbringers rotation? CoS is entirely separate.

Pretty much. I have no idea why people complained about the Goring and Valor DoT not stacking, the blade combo literally just replaced the goring combo you would've normally done after confiteor.

[RyuuZero]

Isn’t that just because the blade combo occupies the gcds where you reapply goring in the shadowbringers rotation? CoS is entirely separate.

yeah that might be true, I use FoF to boost CoS and Spirits Within Expiacion because those are physical+ have the same Cool Down and funnily I used up all my MP in Shadowbringers, just so I could go back to the 1-2-3 Combo and build MP until Req is back. Now I play PLD like this: have MP? Req+ HolySpam into Confiteor into Blades, out of MP? FoF+CoS+Expiacion+Goring Combo into 1-2-3 Combo into AtonementSpam and another Goring Combo to have a DoT while I do the Req Combo. Which works for me on Paper but in practice I still end up having MP after Blades, so I continue Spamming Holy Spirit, looking like a Caster (but Blue Mage can't be a Tank.. huh..) until I have no MP anymore.. the upcomming Problem for me is at that Point my Req is Back but I have no MP so I do the FoF Stuff while Req sits ready to use ._. it's just nitpicking from my side though it's all good, but true I had an easier time with the PLD rotation in Shadowbringers, funnily.

[Rithy255]

Maybe a hot take, but I don't think stuff like Shield Bash should be removed. I think it's perfectly fine to have buttons that have no application to raid gameplay, because removing those buttons removes opportunities to find uses for them in non-raid gameplay. Criterion is an opportunity to have trash etc that are actually enjoyable to deal with, but they *can't* really do that due to the lack of utility among most classes.

and you're against clemency why? like what even. Clemency even has more use cases inside raids and inside solo content, criterion, deep dungeons.

[ForsakenRoe]

and you're against clemency why? like what even. Clemency even has more use cases inside raids and inside solo content, criterion, deep dungeons.

Clemency: now a trait called Knight's Clemency. When Sheltron's effect times out, or is overwritten, instantly heals the PLD for 500 cure potency. When Intervention times out or is overwritten, instantly heals the target for 500 cure potency, and the PLD for 250 cure potency. Once Holy Sheltron is learned, Knight's Clemency instant healing is applied alongside Knight's Benediction regen, for a total of 1500 cure potency per use of Holy Sheltron or Intervention.

I'm on a roll, but the question is if it's a good roll or a bad one

[aodhan_ofinnegain]

Pretty much. I have no idea why people complained about the Goring and Valor DoT not stacking, the blade combo literally just replaced the goring combo you would've normally done after confiteor.

Usually it's the people that don't bother to learn rotations, or understand why a rotation works the way it does, nor think of knock on effects of changes with rotation alignments with raid buffs or don't care and just think, "this would be cool" ignoring the practical applications. So not really a big mystery why they ask, just gotta drown out the stupid, and listen to the people that show they actually play at a competent level.

[True-to-Caesar]

While the PLD rotation had nothing complicated if you knew what you’re doing, I’m curious how the rework will play out. Hopefully they make it more interesting because what we have right now is rather bland in my eyes compared to other tanks.

[Gserpent]

It's hilarious they held back PLD changes. Square-Enix, what the fuck are you so scared of? Do you know, deep down, that you're going to piss off a lot of people with the changes? Because if you think the changes will be received positively, why would you hide them?

Shouldn't that be cause for you to reconsider what you're about to do?

[Mikey_R]

It's hilarious they held back PLD changes. Square-Enix, what the fuck are you so scared of? Do you know, deep down, that you're going to piss off a lot of people with the changes? Because if you think the changes will be received positively, why would you hide them?

Shouldn't that be cause for you to reconsider what you're about to do?

They never release job changes in the preliminary notes, you have to wait for the full notes when maintenance happens.

[Absurdity]

They never release job changes in the preliminary notes, you have to wait for the full notes when maintenance happens.

They did release them before. It stopped with what, early Shadowbringers?

[Gserpent]

They never release job changes in the preliminary notes, you have to wait for the full notes when maintenance happens.

Yeah, I know. I'm saying it's ridiculous that a staggeringly successful developer is apparently living in stark, unmanning terror of... people being upset on the internet.