Please add damage meters, Yoshi P.

[Bobby66]

Yeah, some guy who gets home from work and plays this game for 4 hours a week fumbling his way through MSQ dungeons probably isn't going to be happy getting called trash and kicked from a duty that you can literally clear by rolling your face across the keyboard. You know, the kind of behavior that gets complained about pretty much daily in WoW communities. This game is OVERWHELMINGLY casual, and you will absolutely ruin peoples experiences if you try to foster any kind of unnecessary competitiveness in trivial duties.




Isn't it funny how we went from 'Meters don't cause toxicity' to 'The ToS will still protect us' to 'People need to have thicker skin and deal with being called trash', while half the pro-meter side of the argument has just been posting toxic nonsense the entire time. Such a compelling position.

Again, the greatest argument against official meters is a 5 minute perusal of this thread. Meters will never be added to this game in an official capacity. If you want the player-base to get better, go teach and help people.

So you are saying the causal player has the right to force their standards of play on others, but when it goes the other way around it is toxic? That being said extreme cases can and will still be punished by the ToS, sure other forms of harassment may be considered harassment by the player but maybe not by the ToS or the GM so certain things will not be punished like being removed from the group. Is that really a big deal?

Sure the game is causal, but that does not mean people should get a free pass. Some are okay with carrying people through content, so I am but they have to be trying. I am not going to carry the person that only has 4 hours to play and does an MSQ dungeon while only doing their 1-2-3 combo and that is it. You may view that as toxic, but I view not respecting the time of the others you are playing with to at the very least try is far more toxic.