What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Aline_D]

Given the ancients are a society of scientists it wouldn't take them long to get up to speed on it, the only reason they are pretty ignorant of it is generally been regarded as too weak to do anything with (as the sundered do as well) so it's regarded as nothing but a curiosity. Once the End of Days proves them wrong in that regard it stands to reason they'd investigate it and besides Venat seems pretty knowable on given how many assumptions she makes in her plans

Again this is wishful thinking and you don't offer any alternative what could they possibly do except "a ~~wizard~~ scientist did it"

besides Venat seems pretty knowable on given how many assumptions she makes in her plans

No, Venat is not assuming, she follows a path she already knows where it leads because *we* told her the entire history. Deviating from that path means risking the entire universe for the small chance that they somehow defeat Meteion in another way, which would just buy a bit of time since their society would die no matter what.

[jameseoakes]

We must have been waiting for Galene for quite a while to have time to recite the entire history of the world post sundering—that isn't even known in universe—for her. Not to mention the shards, which funnily WoL doesn't know either.

beside with respect to Metion all Venat knows from us that Zodiark will block the Dynamis for at least 12000 years

[Rolder50]

No, Venat is not assuming, she follows a path she already knows where it leads because *we* told her the entire history. Deviating from that path means risking the entire universe for the small chance that they somehow defeat Meteion in another way, which would just buy a bit of time since their society would die no matter what.

We're getting into Time Paradox territory, which is a core flaw of time travel based stories, but how would venat know the entire history the *first* time she went through this? There had to be a timeline where we didn't interact with Hermes or Venat.

[RyuDragnier]

We're getting into Time Paradox territory, which is a core flaw of time travel based stories, but how would venat know the entire history the *first* time she went through this? There had to be a timeline where we didn't interact with Hermes or Venat.

At this point I assume that the original timeline didn't have us in Elpis, but Venat still went with Hermes and Emet, and she still managed to escape the mind wipe. So she knew what was going on the entire time with Meteion in the original timeline, and certain things like binding Zodiark and the Moon being a ship were originally there. So she walked down the same "path" without the foreknowledge of what she would do. All we did is basically tell her, "Yeah, you're going to walk down that path" in advance.

[Necrotica]

At this point I assume that the original timeline didn't have us in Elpis, but Venat still went with Hermes and Emet, and she still managed to escape the mind wipe. So she knew what was going on the entire time with Meteion in the original timeline, and certain things like binding Zodiark and the Moon being a ship were originally there. So she walked down the same "path" without the foreknowledge of what she would do. All we did is basically tell her, "Yeah, you're going to walk down that path" in advance.

They never would have found Meteion or gotten her report without our help.

[RyuDragnier]

They never would have found Meteion or gotten her report without our help.

Would they even have been in the same area we found them in when she went crazy? Just us meeting them altered how events went.

[Raoabolic]

Would they even have been in the same area we found them in when she went crazy? Just us meeting them altered how events went.

It's time travel m8, at this point it's a just a nice way for the new writers to have wiggle room for what they want while hand-waving the older "baggage". They can either address it or go "lol, alternate timeline" and just drop the 1.0/ARR story.