Please add damage meters, Yoshi P.

[KatMajestic]

Yoshi P has stated a million times there will never be damage meters of any kind ever in the game. It's banned and that will never change. Yoshi P has stated that he doesn't want to see people get excluded from content because of damage meters.

Everyone will know who to actually give a well deserved commendation to. Hahahahaha!

[KatMajestic]

Then go play WoW. Be toxic there.

Knowing who is dead weight and treating them as such isn't toxic, what's toxic is being the dead weight

[Bobby66]

Ok so heres what I dont get. If we already have people parse and use FFlogs anyway, what in the hells are we debating about? Are we seriously just trying to push this for the people that dont want it?

And dont say its for the people that want it, they already would have installed the add-on anyway.

For the most part I think this is just a case of having a discussion or debate for the sake of having one. Many already know nothing will come of it but still desire to explore / question the rational behind the choice.

Then go play WoW. Be toxic there.

WoW is no more :toxic: than FFXIV one community is just more blunt and the other is more passive aggressive about it.

[KatMajestic]

There will never be damage meters in FFXIV. If you want damage meters then go play WoW be toxic there. Context was lost in the sauce.

For the most part I think this is just a case of having a discussion or debate for the sake of having one. Many already know nothing will come of it but still desire to explore / question the rational behind the choice.



WoW is no more :toxic: than FFXIV one community is just more blunt and the other is more passive aggressive about it.

[VelKallor]

WoW is no more :toxic: than FFXIV one community is just more blunt and the other is more passive aggressive about it.

Oh I beg to differ.

As has been said, but bears repeating, the day that dps meters are allowed, you will have THAT GUY spamming meters and screaming abuse at people..............in Sastasha.

Thank you, no.

[DixieBellOCE]

No thanks.

Damage/heal meters are toxic.

Quit Overwatch 2 when they added the stats page.

Stats don't ever tell the full story, and it encourages bad play.

They are fine in games where K/D matters.

But damage/heal meters encourage poeple to top the charts rather than actually play properly.

For example, I have seen plenty of healers 'top' the charts in games I play, but they are playing absolutely woefully. Their heals are mostly them opting not to remove themselvs from crap. Same with DPS. High DPS is great, but not if you are putting yourself in the way of death.

Then you have people bitching if you don't do a job (as per the stats), etc.

PVP has post game stats, you better quit xiv now

[VelKallor]

But damage/heal meters encourage poeple to top the charts rather than actually play properly.

This is 100% true

Example, MoP Throne of Thunder, Horridon. They focus the boss padding their meters, and ignore the adds mechanic.

[Reimmi]

Most of us don’t need another “WoW” possibility of fostering toxicity & it wouldn’t be fair game (leave that for those who does savage however).

Wow has toxicity because the GM's don't ban toxic behavior
if the same thing over there was happening here the gm's would ban people.
So it won't happen even if we did get damage meters

[DeNada]

I think not having an official dps meter is the right call.

With it, toxic players will use it as a tool to bash newbies who are not performing to their perceived standards which would promote toxicity within the game. By tacitly allowing unofficial dps meters for players who want them, players who want to analyze their own performance can use these external tools to aid them but toxic players can't abuse them to go after newbie players as by doing so, they are admitting that they are using third party tools and opening themselves to GM punishment.

A win win situation for all parties around.

[RobynDaBank]

PVP has post game stats, you better quit xiv now

I mean, PvP is super dead relatively to PvE in this game...