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  1. 12-15-2022 01:37 PM
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    Rhela Tsurugi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I am going to skirt the difference between logic and getting accused of defence here, but what is the alternative in a game where character race can be changed and some people switch around on a regular basis? They can't just sell the sets at a cheaper rate to characters who are currently unable to wear the hat, because they might switch to something else later.

    The only solution I can picture is that they either stop making any hats as part of sets, or they completely overhaul their system to sell gear as individual pieces rather than sets – which seems unlikely because they've taken steps away from that rather than towards it. (Though I would greatly appreciate a U-turn.)
    The best answer is that they put forth a little effort to make hats that they are going to sell to players for real money work with Viera and Hrothgar. We already know they can do it as some hats do work, but not all. If I were picking hats that I would want to make work it would be the ones people are paying cash for to make it appealing for everyone to purchase.
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amenara View Post
    The best answer is that they put forth a little effort to make hats that they are going to sell to players for real money work with Viera and Hrothgar. We already know they can do it as some hats do work, but not all. If I were picking hats that I would want to make work it would be the ones people are paying cash for to make it appealing for everyone to purchase.
    The thing with some hats working but not others, is that it isn't simply picking them on a case-by-case decision.

    There is a clear pattern that if a hat covers (and in functional terms, switches off) the upper half of the hair model but leaves the lower half visible, it will not work for Hrothgar/Viera, but if it fully conceals the hair then there is a good chance of it being available to them.

    Compare that the level 90 reaper hat works for them, but the level 90 red mage hat does not. It doesn't just work because it's job gear, but because it fits the criteria.

    For another example, the new Rinascitia sets where the hood works but the beret does not.

    Whether it's necessary or corner-cutting, those are the limits for now, and once you understand the logic it becomes much clearer why the available hats aren't based on the significance of the outfit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    The thing with some hats working but not others, is that it isn't simply picking them on a case-by-case decision.

    There is a clear pattern that if a hat covers (and in functional terms, switches off) the upper half of the hair model but leaves the lower half visible, it will not work for Hrothgar/Viera, but if it fully conceals the hair then there is a good chance of it being available to them.

    Compare that the level 90 reaper hat works for them, but the level 90 red mage hat does not. It doesn't just work because it's job gear, but because it fits the criteria.

    For another example, the new Rinascitia sets where the hood works but the beret does not.

    Whether it's necessary or corner-cutting, those are the limits for now, and once you understand the logic it becomes much clearer why the available hats aren't based on the significance of the outfit.
    Wonder if having viera and hrothgar specific hair turned into a mistake instead of having generic hairstyles like everyone else and they aren't putting resources into making it work. Brings up another question of if they are adding more generic hairstyles if that will change anything.
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