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    Player Nyxs's Avatar
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    Koyuki Himekawa
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    New winter glam for mogstation and not xmas event

    I cant be the only one who is let down by the fact they are putting it on the mogstation instead of giving it to us for xmas. If it wasnt winter related I’d shrug it off but it feels kinda bad when they chose money over something nice for us players.
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    We're getting a mount this year. And it is one that is currently in demand iirc. Event items are all destined to end up in the cash shop anyway, so I wouldn't stress it that much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    We're getting a mount this year. And it is one that is currently in demand iirc. Event items are all destined to end up in the cash shop anyway, so I wouldn't stress it that much.
    Monthly sub = $15.
    One piece of gear that won't work on Viera/Hog = $20.
    =$35 USD for enjoy an "x-mas event"

    "lol you get a mount for free in a game that you won't use 80% of time "
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnRam View Post
    Monthly sub = $15.
    One piece of gear that won't work on Viera/Hog = $20.
    =$35 USD for enjoy an "x-mas event"

    "lol you get a mount for free in a game that you won't use 80% of time "
    FTFY. Only one of those is required to play the game. And no one is twisting your arm to play an incomplete race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    FTFY. Only one of those is required to play the game. And no one is twisting your arm to play an incomplete race.
    So you are defending an incomplete race? you bought a fully expansion for 40 +15 dollars every single month to play an incomplete race because devs refuses to move their asses and fix the problem for once for all.

    Nice shield right there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    Okay, reverse it.

    $15 for sub
    $20 for mount
    $35 for "x-mas event"

    "enjoy your free outfit you wont use for more than a few weeks"

    Doesn't matter how they did this, since there is an almost 0% chance they would have done both for the event, people would complain.

    Can I use "free" outfit everywhere I go? yes
    Can I use the mount (even the pay ones) everywhere I go? No.

    Maybe dunno, what about " complete a few fates or clear any of the latest savage raids and get the outfit" so maybe, i mean MAYBE this company will endorse people to do something else beside capping tomes.
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    Last edited by AnnRam; 12-15-2022 at 04:02 AM.

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    Avatre Drakone
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnRam View Post
    Monthly sub = $15.
    One piece of gear that won't work on Viera/Hog = $20.
    =$35 USD for enjoy an "x-mas event"

    "lol you get a mount for free in a game that you won't use 80% of time "
    Okay, reverse it.

    $15 for sub
    $20 for mount
    $35 for "x-mas event"

    "enjoy your free outfit you wont use for more than a few weeks"

    Doesn't matter how they did this, since there is an almost 0% chance they would have done both for the event, people would complain.
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Instead of giving us exactly one chance to get it in-game then going to the cash shop, they are just putting it directly into the cash shop instead. What do we even pay a sub for, exactly?
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    Daeriion Aeradiir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    Instead of giving us exactly one chance to get it in-game then going to the cash shop, they are just putting it directly into the cash shop instead. What do we even pay a sub for, exactly?
    Maintenance fees & to cover dev salaries. Even then that's debatable on the dev salaries part, given based on the credits, this game has potential close to several hundred people working on it, many of whom have very high salaried jobs.

    From my own experience working in online game development environments, they aren't making that much, if any profit off the sub fees. For a game of this massive scope, especially after years of inflation since its release, $15 sub likely ain't cutting it, even before factoring in the people who use entry or legacy players who get a discount. They'd likely have to bump the sub up to like $50/month if they want to keep the same profit margins the mogstation brings in...which you can imagine would go over so well with the playerbase.

    This ain't any different that most of the other 'subscription' services you pay for out there - most of them rely on other methods to make the money they need, like data selling, ads, kickbacks, etc, since the subscription price people are willing to pay by far and large and the actual price the subscription would need to be in order to be actually profitable for a company are vastly different.

    Mogstation is a necessary evil to keep sub prices down, as it effectively allows others to cover the tab that other players would be refusing/can't pay. Do I personally like it? no. But it's the simple uncaring reality, whether any of us like it or not - Square ain't gonna run FF14 for barely any profit margins, they are a company. Complaining about it is tossing breath to the wind, since the alternative to the mogstation would kill the game overnight.

    Even beyond that, there's also the fact that the mogstation team has been stated time & again to operate with a high amount of autonomy from the FF14 dev team on what they want to do, they aren't the same thing. If the mogstation team wants to make a snow glamour for the mogstation for the holiday season, it doesn't stop Yoshi-P & the devs from making one in-game. But given they only tend to give one 'big' reward per event, it was likely either a glam or the reindeer, so they went with the reindeer given they likely knew the mogstation's winter project. When they've historically only given one 'major' (glamour/mount) reward each event this past year, to say we were robbed of a glamour is extremely disingenuous, when it was always just going to be the reindeer only regardless of whatever the mogstation did.
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    Last edited by Daeriion_Aeradiir; 12-15-2022 at 12:00 AM.

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    DamianFatale's Avatar
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    Arctura Fengari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    Instead of giving us exactly one chance to get it in-game then going to the cash shop, they are just putting it directly into the cash shop instead. What do we even pay a sub for, exactly?
    Because the cash shop is a separate team of people that make the items. They likely didn't have any input on Starlight.
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Because the cash shop is a separate team of people that make the items. They likely didn't have any input on Starlight.
    There is no separate cash shop team, but the lack of input is the same nonetheless. The writers create a story around something to be offered for free. The art team makes the items.
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