Field Commander set: can the requirements to earn it be reviewed?

[ThaCa]

You have vastly better chances of winning if you bring your own party to FL. Solo potential is severly limited by wheter team listens to callouts and with all the damage reduction making it harder to punish others.

[tsuchii]

It's an achievement of perseverance. Otherwise it doesn't hold value.
You win roughly 1/3 times (I have 1200 games with 36% win rate so that's the normal RNG rate) so that's about 300 games. Suffer with everyone else.

[Iscah]

Suffer with everyone else.

Well, if they changed it, everyone else would suffer less too.

I don't see the value in locking things behind lengthy perseverance requirements. I would get more joy out of seeing more people actually wearing the cool outfit.

[Kansene]

I'm at 70 wins atm, so nearly there. Still wouldn't mind if they lowered it to 50 or 30 or whatever, I'd just be happy people got easier access to more stuff. But then again I never got the appeal of the exclusivity of items gated behind huge grinds, as opposed to ones gated behind hard content.

[PikoAliapoh]

By that logic, let's just give people <Saint of the Firmament> for making a few crafts or gathering a few items.

The entire point of something being an achievement is that it takes time, effort, and perseverance to obtain. When I see people with Field Commander set or titles like Saint, I know they put in a lot of effort to get it, and they have my respect for doing so. They should get some sense of satisfaction from it too, I imagine.

[Iscah]

By that logic, let's just give people <Saint of the Firmament> for making a few crafts or gathering a few items.

The entire point of something being an achievement is that it takes time, effort, and perseverance to obtain. When I see people with Field Commander set or titles like Saint, I know they put in a lot of effort to get it, and they have my respect for doing so. They should get some sense of satisfaction from it too, I imagine.

The Saint titles were a horrendous design and it was madness that the devs seemed pleased with it and repeated the process that encouraged people to craft at an unhealthy rate. I wasn't involved at all – neither crafting nor titles are my thing, though I'm not sure I'd have participated even if they were – and I don't see it as an achievement for them to be proud of. It just means they threw a ridiculous amount of time into it because the devs devised a system that would drain their time in a monstrous way when it could have been done with an approach that required daily participation but had a cap on how much time needed to be spent per day.

Likewise, I wouldn't be remotely proud of "achieving" ownership of the coat. It is a massive suck on my time that I probably should have spent on something better, and may come to nothing in the end if I don't get it completed – and all that to get it on just one character, and the process to be repeated if I want it for a second character.

It's an "achievement" established in another era of the game, where nearly all the other prizes from that era have become simpler and less time-consuming than they originally were. PVP doesn't allow this one to naturally simplify in the same way, which is why I think the devs need to manually review it.

[PikoAliapoh]

It's an "achievement" established in another era of the game, where nearly all the other prizes from that era have become simpler and less time-consuming than they originally were. PVP doesn't allow this one to naturally simplify in the same way, which is why I think the devs need to manually review it.

That's simply not true. The PVP mount from Onsaal is pretty much the same requirement. 100 wins. Implemented after the FL was put in a daily rotation. This is par for the course and normal.

OP just amounts to "I want X thing, so make it easier for me to get." Maybe it'll get put in the next Moogle Tomestone event where other things that took people a bunch of time and effort are given out for practically nothing.

[Moomba33]

The requirement of 100 Seal Rock wins to obtain the Field Commander coat is utterly frustrating, especially since you get no progress at all from anything but a win – no matter how well you played or how narrow the victory was. It seems an excessively high wall to lock glamour behind for what is supposed to be casual content – by comparison, you're guaranteed your primal mounts after less than a hundred unsynched victories, but this will take on average 300 twenty-minute fights with no possibility of it becoming easier over time.

Ideally I would like to see it simplified in general – perhaps 100 matches rather than 100 wins – but if lessening it is not an option then perhaps is it possible to shift the requirements for it from pure wins to some kind of cumulative points total?

The current requirement is essentially reaching 100 x 800 points, so a cumulative total of 80,000 points would be the same target, but then you'd still be making progress towards it with a fail while getting there faster by winning.

I've always thought a point total achievement would be a nice change. Something like: 300 points, 3 for a win, 2 for second, 1 for third. It would make losing much less frustrating if you could still get some progress instead of none.

I'm a scrub with a slightly below average winrate and I did get the coat through perseverance. But I think it would be nice for others to not have to grind as long.

OP just amounts to "I want X thing, so make it easier for me to get." Maybe it'll get put in the next Moogle Tomestone event where other things that took people a bunch of time and effort are given out for practically nothing.

I don't believe the Moogle Tomestone events have ever given away achievement rewards. They tend to give things that drop from content or can be bought from special vendors.

[Iscah]

That's simply not true. The PVP mount from Onsaal is pretty much the same requirement. 100 wins. Implemented after the FL was put in a daily rotation. This is par for the course and normal.

And I hope that can be reduced too, in time, or converted to being points-based as I suggested in the OP. But it was added to the game much later so any downgrading would also happen later.

[Kazemon15]

It took me about 2 years to finally get this coat but I had to grind for it cuz I really wanted it. OP, you'll get it eventually if you just keep at it.