Why so much in-game racism?

[Midareyukki]

So such things have naturally continued into FFXI's spirtual successor here in FFXIV. There's no real nastiness associated with it, it's just light-hearted silliness.

So it's all memes like the "cooking lala" jokes here, right? Even the devs do some of that themselves. It might make some people uncomfortable, but overall every race in this game has something to pick up on. Though, I will admit, I'd rather some jokes were a bit more original.

Nothing like calling people pedophile or zoophile for playing a given race, yes?

[Deveryn]

This all started in EQ

[PirateRyanG]

You never heard of 'tarupunting'/'taruball' jokes? Or eating taru? People used to shout those out all the time in Jeuno (Although I remember one taru player in Lower Jeuno at the receiving end of one such 'eating taru' joke got their revenge by shouting back "Don't eat more taru, eat more GALKA!". I can't remember how the other person responded to that)...

And then there was the tail pulling taru inevitably did to mithra like me.... (yes I experienced that, out in the middle of nowhere too I might add, some taru player came up, did "pulls Enkidoh's tail and then runs away, laughing." in emote and then disappeared). But it was all in good fun and wasn't deliberately nasty or mean spirited - it was just part of the fun of playing the game.

So such things have naturally continued into FFXI's spirtual successor here in FFXIV. There's no real nastiness associated with it, it's just light-hearted silliness.

It was certainly nowhere near the vitriol that is currently spouted in FF14.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

So it's all memes like the "cooking lala" jokes here, right? Even the devs do some of that themselves. It might make some people uncomfortable, but overall every race in this game has something to pick up on. Though, I will admit, I'd rather some jokes were a bit more original.

Nothing like calling people pedophile or zoophile for playing a given race, yes?

I've been called boring and unoriginal for playing the standard human race so... Everyone gets it.

[Midareyukki]

I've been called boring and unoriginal for playing the standard human race so... Everyone gets it.

I reiterate.

I still remember that stupid thread where some broad came in and compared me being called a Zoophile and being told that the reason SE doesn't do work on Hrothgar is bc they think cats should be skinned alive to Miqo'te and Au Ra being called "same-y". Those two "insults" do not compare in terms of intensity.

You being called boring and unoriginal for playing whatever race is one thing. It's pretty unpleasant as it is, I won't deny it. But another thing entirely is being told that your race should die and that you're the worst society has to offer for playing it.

I'd much rather be called boring and unoriginal than people calling me a zoophile again.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I reiterate.



You being called boring and unoriginal for playing whatever race is one thing. It's pretty unpleasant as it is, I won't deny it. But another thing entirely is being told that your race should die and that you're the worst society has to offer for playing it.

I'd much rather be called boring and unoriginal than people calling me a zoophile again.

Its the internet. People will say anything with anonymity and lack of consequences. Or even without the anonymity if they think they can get away with it. Facebook and Twitter are proof of that.

[Renalt]

People only like my character for his thighs.

[BaconBits]

People only like my character for his thighs.

They're called Thighlanders for a reason.

[Midareyukki]

Its the internet. People will say anything with anonymity and lack of consequences. Or even without the anonymity if they think they can get away with it. Facebook and Twitter are proof of that.

Okay, and that's true. But you're not considering what I keep telling you.

To me, the issue isn't that people make stupid comments. You can easily make a stupid comment about me being a Hrothgar and say something that's annoying (but true) like how I'm using a face similar to 90% of all Hrothgar. And you could be unpleasant about it. It wouldn't bother me. Not only bc it's true, but also because it's minor in comparison to being called zoophile.

The issue is that this community used to not tolerate that sort of crap. Jokes were thrown around, sure, and it was whatever. But it was rarely this malicious, and when it happened, people wouldn't let that slide. There'd be a push-back against that sort of thing and people would rather promote cohesion and acceptance than anything else. Even among races that were least liked you still had people include them in groups. Now you actively have people excluding races and calling them really garbage crap.

Also, this isn't twitter nor facebook. We're not social media. We're a game community, for whatever that's worth. Call me naïve, but idk, to me this group had standards. They were just dropped all over the floor.

Comments like being called boring and stuff like that aren't that bad, even if they're unpleasant. Plus, odds are, it's got to do with whether a person likes something or not, and if they don't like your options, just shrug it off. They probably are ratchet themselves. But what, now we should also be okay with people being especially garbage to, idk, Lalafell, just because "lmao it's the internet get used to it"?

Ok cool. Yo Lalafell players, y'all are pedos for playing that race, the hell's wrong with you? /qed

[Deveryn]

Okay, and that's true. But you're not considering what I keep telling you.

To me, the issue isn't that people make stupid comments. You can easily make a stupid comment about me being a Hrothgar and say something that's annoying (but true) like how I'm using a face similar to 90% of all Hrothgar. And you could be unpleasant about it. It wouldn't bother me. Not only bc it's true, but also because it's minor in comparison to being called zoophile.

The issue is that this community used to not tolerate that sort of crap. Jokes were thrown around, sure, and it was whatever. But it was rarely this malicious, and when it happened, people wouldn't let that slide. There'd be a push-back against that sort of thing and people would rather promote cohesion and acceptance than anything else. Even among races that were least liked you still had people include them in groups. Now you actively have people excluding races and calling them really garbage crap.

Also, this isn't twitter nor facebook. We're not social media. We're a game community, for whatever that's worth. Call me naïve, but idk, to me this group had standards. They were just dropped all over the floor.

Comments like being called boring and stuff like that aren't that bad, even if they're unpleasant. Plus, odds are, it's got to do with whether a person likes something or not, and if they don't like your options, just shrug it off. They probably are ratchet themselves. But what, now we should also be okay with people being especially garbage to, idk, Lalafell, just because "lmao it's the internet get used to it"?

Ok cool. Yo Lalafell players, y'all are pedos for playing that race, the hell's wrong with you? /qed

well, in 2016 it was decided to be okay for those standards to be dropped and here we are.