EndWalker's Deep Dungeon

[rainichan]

I have to admit I didn't see the whole Live Letter and the image I did see didn't really show anything, after a bit more looking I found the other image online that does show Allagan stuff.

Some of the posts I have seen in this thread sound like they are coming from petulent children stamping their feet, others have given some good ideas as to what it could have been.

We can only hope SE impliment them in some shape or form in content further down the line, I mean in 7.0 everything is supposed to change so they will have a fresh slate, so to speak

After playing for a solid 9 years, I'm just tired of Allagan bulls[kupo]t. Everything is Allagans (see: my previous post in the thread with the meme) and while yes, this answers some loose storythreads, I would like for them to do something different when we have so much more to pull from! At least give a break from Ascians and Allagans, since that's been what the game has been 90% of the time since late 1.x. It's not so much whining like a petulant child for me, I know they have more interesting story beats than "it's Allagans for the 800th time in 9.5 years of story" especially after HoH was "haha it's Allagans!" already. POTD was interesting Gelmorran lore + some non-Allagan stuff, HoH I distinctly remember my friends and I all going "...Allagans. It's always Allagans." with a hefty sigh, so hearing more "it's Allagans, again" during the LL was disappointing. I enjoy the lore and worldbuilding, but there were more large cities beyond the 3rd and 4th Astral Eras that could be for exploring.

tl;dr I'm not mad, just disappointed lol.

[Sin_Redblade]

As you say they could be using this dungeon to tie up the threads for all Allagan related content and starting fresh from 7.0 - we can but hope

I havent played the game as long, only 6.5 years and yes I can pick faults and things, and I understand that people really do love this game and want to see it go from strength to strength, I just think there is a better way to get this across to the dev team (if they do truely read the forums) other than to say "waaah your not doing what I want I am not playing any more", not saying everyone does do that, it's just how it comes across.

As the old saying goes "hope for the best, plan for the worst"

[RyuDragnier]

A deep dungeon with Allagan stuff, right after we found out the truth about things going on with the Allagan Empire. I'd say this is the perfect time to finally end everything dealing with them, and judging from how much of vibes this is giving me from Coil of Bahamut, it's going to be one hell of a final bow for Allagan.

[IkaraGreydancer]

After playing for a solid 9 years, I'm just tired of Allagan bulls[kupo]t. Everything is Allagans (see: my previous post in the thread with the meme) and while yes, this answers some loose storythreads, I would like for them to do something different when we have so much more to pull from! At least give a break from Ascians and Allagans, since that's been what the game has been 90% of the time since late 1.x. It's not so much whining like a petulant child for me, I know they have more interesting story beats than "it's Allagans for the 800th time in 9.5 years of story" especially after HoH was "haha it's Allagans!" already. POTD was interesting Gelmorran lore + some non-Allagan stuff, HoH I distinctly remember my friends and I all going "...Allagans. It's always Allagans." with a hefty sigh, so hearing more "it's Allagans, again" during the LL was disappointing. I enjoy the lore and worldbuilding, but there were more large cities beyond the 3rd and 4th Astral Eras that could be for exploring.

tl;dr I'm not mad, just disappointed lol.

You know nothing outside of that though. No one does. I'm not about to write it off due to a small piece of info. Anyone who played HoH should've known the Allagan story would continue with these. Hell same for the areas under the CT. These threads would be picked up eventually.

I'm fine so far. Msq/Alliance Raid/Normal Raids/Criterion (far as ik admittedly) have nothing to do with Allags.

[rainichan]

You know nothing outside of that though. No one does. I'm not about to write it off due to a small piece of info. Anyone who played HoH should've known the Allagan story would continue with these. Hell same for the areas under the CT. These threads would be picked up eventually.

I'm fine so far. Msq/Alliance Raid/Normal Raids/Criterion (far as ik admittedly) have nothing to do with Allags.

I'm not saying I won't play the content. I will, I'll enjoy it, as I have every other Deep Dungeon, I mentioned this in my first post in this thread too. I enjoy the lore and the worldbuilding, I just want to see more of it that isn't just Allagans, all the time is what I'm saying. I'm not going to quit over it, that's insane, I just hope that Allagans isn't going to be the only angle they do for content like this. POTD was great because it was Gelmorra! Something different! I love different things! Please give me more lore outside of "it was Allagans because of course it was." The other ideas and hopes in this thread and the one in the lore subforum with what they could have done would have been fun too (Garlean labs, the moon, something on the First because Twelve knows there's plenty of stuff in the First they could have used, among other ideas) but I'm allowed to be disappointed that they fell back on to Allagans, again, for the 800th time. Hopefully it'll be the friggin' end of Allagans, Again, Because Of Course It Is as it has been since 2013 and we can move on, but only time will tell for future content.

[Midareyukki]

I'm not saying I won't play the content. I will, I'll enjoy it, as I have every other Deep Dungeon, I mentioned this in my first post in this thread too. I enjoy the lore and the worldbuilding, I just want to see more of it that isn't just Allagans, all the time is what I'm saying. I'm not going to quit over it, that's insane, I just hope that Allagans isn't going to be the only angle they do for content like this. POTD was great because it was Gelmorra! Something different! I love different things! Please give me more lore outside of "it was Allagans because of course it was." The other ideas and hopes in this thread and the one in the lore subforum with what they could have done would have been fun too (Garlean labs, the moon, something on the First because Twelve knows there's plenty of stuff in the First they could have used, among other ideas) but I'm allowed to be disappointed that they fell back on to Allagans, again, for the 800th time. Hopefully it'll be the friggin' end of Allagans, Again, Because Of Course It Is as it has been since 2013 and we can move on, but only time will tell for future content.

Pretty much how I feel. I'm gonna play it, odds are I'm going to enjoy it. But I just won't deny that there are other, potentially better stuff that we haven't explored yet. Allagans are just the default option now for anything they make, and they haven't done anything new with Allagan lore for quite a while. And there's not much that boosts hope for that.

Sure, it hasn't been Allagans for a good while in Endwalker. But it's 6.3. Last time we heard of Allagans was in 5.55 with Zadnor.

Allagans are the Midlander Hyur of ancient civilizations :x

[IkaraGreydancer]

I'm not saying I won't play the content. I will, I'll enjoy it, as I have every other Deep Dungeon, I mentioned this in my first post in this thread too. I enjoy the lore and the worldbuilding, I just want to see more of it that isn't just Allagans, all the time is what I'm saying. I'm not going to quit over it, that's insane, I just hope that Allagans isn't going to be the only angle they do for content like this. POTD was great because it was Gelmorra! Something different! I love different things! Please give me more lore outside of "it was Allagans because of course it was." The other ideas and hopes in this thread and the one in the lore subforum with what they could have done would have been fun too (Garlean labs, the moon, something on the First because Twelve knows there's plenty of stuff in the First they could have used, among other ideas) but I'm allowed to be disappointed that they fell back on to Allagans, again, for the 800th time. Hopefully it'll be the friggin' end of Allagans, Again, Because Of Course It Is as it has been since 2013 and we can move on, but only time will tell for future content.

Never said you can't be disappointed. We already are getting things unrelated to allag. I listed them. If you choose to dimiss them that's on you. Not a jab btw, just saying

[rainichan]

Pretty much how I feel. I'm gonna play it, odds are I'm going to enjoy it. But I just won't deny that there are other, potentially better stuff that we haven't explored yet. Allagans are just the default option now for anything they make, and they haven't done anything new with Allagan lore for quite a while. And there's not much that boosts hope for that.

Sure, it hasn't been Allagans for a good while in Endwalker. But it's 6.3. Last time we heard of Allagans was in 5.55 with Zadnor.

Allagans are the Midlander Hyur of ancient civilizations :x

> is a midlander, feels that burn acutely lmao

One of my friends said it best: they're a convenient plot tool, but that tool is well worn. If this is what makes them put it in the shed for good, I'll be pleased because other things can finally be used for plot device tools instead.

Never said you can't be disappointed. We already are getting things unrelated to allag. I listed them. If you choose to dimiss them that's on you. Not a jab btw, just saying

I'm... not?? I've run them??? I enjoy them?? I rarely have grievances about this game, but this is the one thing that I'm actually tired of irt Convenient Plot Devices When We Can't Think Of Anything Else. Lore and worldbuilding are my bread and butter in a game and when Allagan lore is basically a 3000 page book (haha because they were around for 3000 years, that's my Allagan joke today) and lore on every other civiliation is like 2 10-page chapters, I'm going to be chomping at the bit for other stuff. The Sil'dih stuff was GREAT and I'm with others hoping that we get some Nymian lore beyond what we've gotten in the SCH quests with the new diving spots in ARR areas with a new variant dungeon for it... tho tbf, CT is all about the Allagans :P So yes, I'm disappointed, I can air my disappointment after HoH being Allagans, Again and now we're getting another Allagan-themed DD.

I'm glad for the people who like Allagan stuff because hey, they enjoy it and I'm glad someone will enjoy it! I'll be happy for the lore, just wish they'd put the Convenient Plot Tool away for good for something else so I can enjoy other lore.

[elioaiko]

The biggest lose for me was them not adding a deep dungeon in ShB with Qitana style. It would feel like going through that deep dungeon in FFXV in the swamp/jungle area.

I don't mind more Eureka styled things since Eureka was aesthetically interesting. Though I was kinda hoping for something on a dead star like Ultima Thule. Idk I guess I want that mystery and dangerous edge to something that we know next to nothing about.

[Jettinson]

Hardly anything has been shown about this new deep dungeon yet and already ppl are bitching and moaning about it? At least ppl could wait until the next LL when more info will be shown before passing judgement

People being tired of having more Allagans while there are plenty of other themes to explore does sour the mood but overall no one is complaining about the gameplay itself since we do not have any idea what they'll add or make it different than the rest. That is the difference. I will gladly play this DD anyway because we play from 81-90 level and i enjoy way more and hopefully there are some fun rewards behind it