Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
The story has a really messed up suffering fetish that is really sick, and the whole suffering is part of life so if people don't have enough it should be inflicted on them is pure evil
Where does the story say that? If that was the case the story would not have the WoL trying to stop suffering from happening. No they would let us watch and say "see its good". Instead they just say that suffering exists, that it is part of our lifes if we want it or not. That we should accept that it can happen but also try to look for the light within the Darkness of it all.

Even with the Ancient it was not "they have to constantly suffer" but that they should accept what happened and try to move forward.

@Lurina: We will never know it because none of us will reach immortality. My point was always that yes a comfortable life for us mortals would be nice but that too much, bascially perfection might not be what is good for people that live forever. Also for me the theme was never that we should just accept any suffering otherwise as I have written above this, we would not be going around and helping so many people.

And its okay that you see it different to me and others. I also wish that most people would not have to suffer so much. I find it unfair when someone young dies because of illness. But it exists. And for some of us it does help to understand that not everything is taken for granted. When I was at my lowest point in life it was hard to see beyond the dark times. Now when I am so much better I am at least grateful that I have learned lessons from that. Lessons that will help me if I suffer again. Of course I would have not wished that upon myself. Yet I can also say that it has helped me grow, especially with my world view on certain things.

In the end though SE has chosen that two of the three eternal (if you can count dragons as nearly immortal) races have gone too far and thus have created another way to suffer. Next to them we still have the other ones that have nothing to do with it. And for them Ultima Thule is bascially a way to get a better future. A future with much less suffering. I think its a nice mix of different endings for different races and how they are now able to start anew.