What is your favorite QoL that's coming in 6.3?

[Reimmi]

He didnt get banned for inputting helpful information into the UI.


He got banned for doing so illegally. I dont get why people need to make this so complicated. Its like lets say I break into your house right? But the intended purpose was to leave some baked cookies for you and not do anything else beyond that. Sure it was ultimately a nice gesture.....but I would still get arrested for breaking into your house to do so. I get punished for the actual act not for the results of it.

Are we really comparing breaking into someones home with chat bubble plugins lol
ya'll anti modders are insane

[Deveryn]

Are we really comparing breaking into someones home with chat bubble plugins lol
ya'll anti modders are insane

Not everyone that feels this way is anti-mod. It's about playing smart and understanding the risk you take using such a thing. You can have the best of intentions, but if your approach doesn't respect the rules, you (and the people that see it happen) have to accept the consequences.

[Kaurhz]

Getting banned for making the game a better
experience then adding that into the game lmfao. About as funny as the goofballs who praise this dev team.

No, what is funny is people roaming around on here thinking that because a player was historically banned for using a feature of a third-party tool, it should preclude the developers from ever incorporating it as a native feature, especially when many features are added natively as part of QoL can be and are derived/influenced on third-party features.

Someone was banned for a feature later incorporated into the game as it has a reasonable and practical application, get over it. The dev team is not the people issuing the bans. That's just the GMs following their guideline, equally, I don't think the developers have the time to take on consulting with GMs on every single case before banning them.

Common sense would have told me that this was at least a good sign on the developers' side as it shows a willingness to not only look at why these programs are being used but whether the reasons or the features can be applied natively. But then I suppose common just isn't too common.

[Midareyukki]

I just like being able to tell what's physical and what's magical than just randomly being hit with "Laser Canon: Parried!". Because some attacks are rather weird when you see the Parry message pop up. At least now GNB and DRK can use their skills a bit more reliably.

[Knot_D]

He didnt get banned for inputting helpful information into the UI.


He got banned for doing so illegally. I dont get why people need to make this so complicated.

Let's stop acting like they didn't do anything wrong. Respect the TOS. It's that simple. Lots of people mod, a handful get a little too carried away and get themselves caught.

But isn't it kind of moot point to be a white knight for defending the TOS when they decided to add those in game after banning those who used it way before that?

Anyways I see this new WAR buff on the party buff timer



Are they gonna change it to AoE defense buff like GNB and DRK's?

[Atelier-Bagur]

But isn't it kind of moot point to be a white knight for defending the TOS when they decided to add those in game after banning those who used it way before that?

Anyways I see this new WAR buff on the party buff timer



Are they gonna change it to AoE defense buff like GNB and DRK's?

I ultimately dont care honestly, just tired of seeing people cry and act surprised over getting caught and banned over something they knew was going to get them in trouble.

[Heroman3003]

You can both agree that its a bad policy to completely outlaw all mods and that its perfectly justified for those who ignore said policy to get banned when they broke it knowing what they were doing.

Its valid for devs to want to protect the game's code. Its valid for players to want to customize and modify it beyond what devs would normally.

It may not be a policy all agree on, and I myself think its somewhat anti-community; but also I think it's perfectly valid to ban those who break that policy, regardless of purity of their intentions. Rather than arguing for rulebreakers being not punished, argue for rules to be changed. Though that in its own right is extremely unlikely.

[Deveryn]

But isn't it kind of moot point to be a white knight for defending the TOS when they decided to add those in game after banning those who used it way before that?

Anyways I see this new WAR buff on the party buff timer



Are they gonna change it to AoE defense buff like GNB and DRK's?

The TOS is what it is. There's no defending it and there's no opposing it. (It's not a rare occurence or some evil plot to screw over the consumer. It's there to protect the interests of the company.)

There's only calling attention to how pathetic it looks to whine and cry when something like this happens. Why does everything have to be so damn dramatic around here? They've been taking our feedback and working on putting these things in. So many people neither know nor care about who got banned. We're all happy and grateful this is being put in.

[ForteNightshade]

He didnt get banned for inputting helpful information into the UI.


He got banned for doing so illegally. I dont get why people need to make this so complicated. Its like lets say I break into your house right? But the intended purpose was to leave some baked cookies for you and not do anything else beyond that. Sure it was ultimately a nice gesture.....but I would still get arrested for breaking into your house to do so. I get punished for the actual act not for the results of it.

The issue people have is none of these UI improvement would have happened without those players essentially sacrificing themselves at the alter. We've been asking for a physical or magical damage indicator for years now. The last time Yoshida went on a tangent how it wouldn't be feasible because of such and such. I'd have to find the post but some with tech knowledge went so far as to break down how absolutely ridiculous his statements were because they simply didn't make sense. It's no small coincidence they've only started adding these improvements after people resorted to third party tools.

To borrow your analogy. While breaking into your house is illegal, you can no way to actually lock any of your doors or windows. Someone could literally walk right on in, albeit uninvited. Only after someone does precisely that are you then allowed to actually lock your door. Bit ridiculous and illogical, right? That's essentially how these bans feels.

[Heroman3003]

The issue people have is none of these UI improvement would have happened without those players essentially sacrificing themselves at the alter. We've been asking for a physical or magical damage indicator for years now. The last time Yoshida went on a tangent how it wouldn't be feasible because of such and such. I'd have to find the post but some with tech knowledge went so far as to break down how absolutely ridiculous his statements were because they simply didn't make sense. It's no small coincidence they've only started adding these improvements after people resorted to third party tools.

To borrow your analogy. While breaking into your house is illegal, you can no way to actually lock any of your doors or windows. Someone could literally walk right on in, albeit uninvited. Only after someone does precisely that are you then allowed to actually lock your door. Bit ridiculous and illogical, right? That's essentially how these bans feels.

Even now he's saying that most likely it will take many extra patches of fixing afterwards because its expected that in a lot of lesser known side content or older content, the indicators will just be wrong. He doesnt go back on it being unfeasible, but he clearly recgnizes the extent to which community demands it.