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  1. #11
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    Shibi's Avatar
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    Lala Felon
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    Zurvan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    You mustve not paid attention to the never ending cycle reports on launcher where they have a team reporting banned RMT accounts constantly.
    Big uptick in the last one too. Previouly it was always 3000-5000, now it tripled.

    10 November
    ・Participation in RMT/prohibited activities
     ・Accounts terminated: 16,800


    27 October

    ・Participation in RMT/prohibited activities
     ・Accounts terminated: 5328


    20 October

    ・Participation in RMT/prohibited activities
     ・Accounts terminated: 3,293

    13 October

    ・Participation in RMT/prohibited activities
     ・Accounts terminated: 5,013

    6 October

    ・Participation in RMT/prohibited activities
     ・Accounts terminated: 5044
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    やはり、お前は……笑顔が……イイ

  2. #12
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    BelegErkhten's Avatar
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    Beleg Erkhten
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    Diabolos
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    You mustve not paid attention to the never ending cycle reports on launcher where they have a team reporting banned RMT accounts constantly.

    They also recently said theyre expanding this team too. Just because its not "In your face" shown that theyre actively fighting against RMT doesnt mean theyre not.

    The matter of the fact is that fighting against RMT in an online game is a never ending battle.
    You are replying to a notorious 4chan troll, he is intentionally saying garbage
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  3. #13
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    They used that in EQ2.

    Cash poor players could grind up a months subscription in gold and buy a month from the marketboard.
    Cash rich players could buy a token and list it on the marketboard for cash.

    The end result is a bunch more people doing run-for-gil and the increase in party finder/shout advertising as they try to catch the players who want to be carried to the top of the raid tier / a pvp title.



    But FFXIV doesn't have enough sinks to take the gold out of the system once it's created so freely. So the rarer items will become more expensive. Instead of 1 gilcap FC house sales you will see 10 gilcap FC house sales. How many months of free playtime will a gil farmer in Shanghai get by using every trick possible to snap up all available housing then selling it to people for their cash-bought gil?
    That alt currency launch (station cash) was a disaster, where players were able to sub for a whole year for like 15$. I remember the tokens now: Krono

    As for the original question, there's no way they would ever do something like that. It would just aggravate the botting situation and eventually force adjustments to the selling values of items.
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    Last edited by Deveryn; 11-11-2022 at 06:01 AM.

  4. #14
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    Canadane's Avatar
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    They've mentioned they can budget better if they know how much money they'll be getting via the subscription count.
    It was in response to a free to play model.

    So if people can maybe sometimes get months free via gil if they so desire it, they may not have the revenue stream they project.
    So I doubt they'll be changing the sub models any time soon.
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    http://king.canadane.com

  5. #15
    Player NekoMataMata's Avatar
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    Feline Good
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    Players would scream. Plus wouldn't they have to sell it at prices competitive to the gil sellers?
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  6. #16
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    Aserana Swian
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    Odin
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    They've mentioned they can budget better if they know how much money they'll be getting via the subscription count.
    It was in response to a free to play model.

    So if people can maybe sometimes get months free via gil if they so desire it, they may not have the revenue stream they project.
    So I doubt they'll be changing the sub models any time soon.
    The model wouldn't change.

    A sub would always be paid for, just not necessarily by the person paying with gil.
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  7. #17
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    Macchi Ato
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 93
    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    You mustve not paid attention to the never ending cycle reports on launcher where they have a team reporting banned RMT accounts constantly.
    ‘Tis merely a proposal with the game code that they could do. FFXIV is far more malleable than other games when it comes to modding, and has a more robust modding scene than most online games. That includes various APIs that can access game files, logs, memory, and even server calls to assist a bot in harvesting mats for sale. The marketboard itself is heavily automated, both by end users and bots, with these easily-available plugins and APIs. Sure, other games have bots too. But FFXIV is distinguished by being easy to mod for just about everyone. Perhaps SE could change that!

    Also, user reports no doubt count for a large portion of those banned, as it’s the only thing that the in-line chat report feature can be used for.

    Quote Originally Posted by BelegErkhten View Post
    You are replying to a notorious 4chan troll, he is intentionally saying garbage
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    Last edited by caffe_macchiato; 11-11-2022 at 07:25 AM.

  8. #18
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    You mustve not paid attention to the never ending cycle reports on launcher where they have a team reporting banned RMT accounts constantly.

    They also recently said theyre expanding this team too. Just because its not "In your face" shown that theyre actively fighting against RMT doesnt mean theyre not.

    The matter of the fact is that fighting against RMT in an online game is a never ending battle.
    The matter of the fact is, they need to start banning the buyers. they take care of the RMT market, and suddenly the bots wont be as much of a problem. its really that simple. you start taking action against the player buying the gil, and buying gil no longer seems risk free or attractive. end of story. it works.
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  9. #19
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    Nia Niyah
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    After what the wow token did to wow, i do not want that anywhere near ff14
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reimmi View Post
    After what the wow token did to wow, i do not want that anywhere near ff14
    What did the WOW token do to WOW?
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