S-Rank mobs needs a invulnerability buff on S-RANKs

[Jojoya]

Hunt trains aren't really all that bad... until you go and kill an A rank outside of the train. Then you get the FFXIV FBI at your door asking why you dared to not partake in the train.

Then tell them that's not your problem, it's open world content available to everyone and they're welcome to take it up with the GMs if they don't like it.

As someone who conducts trains, I'm tired of the organized hunt community acting like it owns everything hunt related. We don't. Yes, we want people to come together to have a good time killing stuff but it's fine to limit it to just what's available at that time. If someone else gets some of the marks before the train is formed, good for them. I genuinely hope they had a good time.

The people I really hate are the ones who wait around for someone to organize a train then spend their time disrupting it. If you don't like how the train is run, then why did you come? If you wanted to hunt on your own terms, why weren't you out there looking for the marks as soon as their spawn windows opened? That's public information with the various trackers being used by the community. No need to come bully a train that's intended to be a pleasant experience for those attending.

I just think the requirements of how many hunt kills you need for the mounts is unrealistic for a competitive "one party gets the kill" system. You literally need thousands for the achievements. Even with the trains, they take a long time to earn.

The mount achievements are intended for those who make The Hunt their end game and spend the majority of their time hunting (or those who have nothing in their life to prevent them from playing 20 hours a day). I know a lot of dedicated hunters who have all 3 mounts because they love hunting. I know a lot of hunters (like me) that don't because we also like to spend a lot of our time doing other content even if we're still out there scouting, conducting and spawning a good part of the time. I don't even have my Centurio Tiger yet (though I'm slowly creeping up to the end of the grind).

It's fine for achievements like that to exist. The game has plenty of other mounts for players to earn through other types of content.

SE could just make them all fates and it would fix all of this. But that taboo or something?

SE has stated they are not willing to do that. The amount of time and effort it would take them to convert The Hunt into a FATE style system would come at the cost of a significant amount of new content they could otherwise be making for the game.

People just need to learn they're not supposed to make it to every hunt on their home world let alone cross world. If you want those achievements and rewards, then become one of those who are doing the spawning and the conducting so you're spending more time actually doing The Hunt instead of trying to squeeze it in between the other things you're doing.

[Conadrium]

Square Enix should just put a 10-minute invulnerability buff on all S rank.
Having a 5-10 minute invulnerability buff would not hurt anything.

10 minutes is way too long but 3 is fine. This is especially true about SS ranks when even people there killing minions might not make it in time for credit which is flatly ridiculous.

I don’t agree we should have to wait for people from other world servers.

[Axxion]

one thing they can do is always scale the lvl to the current max

[Dyvid]

Sorry but people wanted it this way. They asked for FFXI NM systems, and this is exactly what we got. A full-blown shite show.

[Toutatis]

10 minutes is way too long but 3 is fine. This is especially true about SS ranks when even people there killing minions might not make it in time for credit which is flatly ridiculous.

I don’t agree we should have to wait for people from other world servers.

3-5 mins max. People shouldn’t have to wait for others taking their sweet time to get to a boss: you hear a call, you head there.

A few minutes would make a lot of sense on ss rank for the reason you mention. It happened to me a few times and it’s really annoying as you have contributed to the thing but don’t get the reward.

[Zebraoracle]

3-5 mins max. People shouldn’t have to wait for others taking their sweet time to get to a boss: you hear a call, you head there.

A few minutes would make a lot of sense to have a few minutes on ss rank for the reason you mention. It happened to me a few times and it’s really annoying as you have contributed to the thing but don’t get the reward.

People shouldn't have to wait at all but the spawners and people joining in are being nice (which is a good thing). Unfortunately there is next to zero support for hunts and no rules stating that everyone is entitled to participate in a hunt. The way I've seen people act entitled over hunts is mind boggling, whole arguments in shout and everything.

[Kaurhz]

They should just be scaled up.

I'm sorry but they can cry about "But it's designed for level 50" - But, to be frank, what the developers intend for the hunts and how the community actually approaches it are 2 entirely different things, and they seem pretty insistent in continuing to shape it around that, as opposed to how the community has adopted it.

Either that or treat it like a FATE and have everyone downscale.

Don't really see any reason whatsoever to maintain this current implementation.

[Conadrium]

They should have to wait with SS ranks. I’m talking about people actively helping you kill minions and not getting credit because you can’t wait two minutes while they fly from the far corner of the zone where the minion spawned.

S ranks is debatable and three minutes isn’t much to ask to make sure spawner at least can get there, but SS ranks at least NEED this shield.

[wereotter]

People need to stop waiting more than 5 minutes to pull an S rank to wait for people off world to show up. Just get to the ones you can and don't worry about others.

I'm not one of the people griefing on this, but time zones do play a part of in this. On Aether data center, the hunt trains happen (in Pacific time): while I'm getting dressed and ready to go to work, before I get off of work, and super late at night. This means for west coast people, it's really difficult to impossible for us to participate in ANY of the trains, and for me, I think the server center travel and implementation of hunt trains really hurt hunting on our server. Previously you'd just join link shells and people would call out things as they saw then and people would come if they were online to kill them in a more organic, less structured way.

Since Stormblood I can count on one hand the number of times I've been able to participate in hunts. So if someone really loved hunting before and now is being excluded because other people have come in and dictated to us how we must do our hunts if we want to do them at all.... I don't condone it, but I can understand why people would feel like they just want to burn it all down for everyone.

[Limecat]

An easier bandaid fix might be to make the party rewards blanket. As in, as long as you're in a party engaged with it you get the reward when it dies whether you hit it yourself or not. It wouldn't cover all cases, but stragglers that barely manage to zone in and join a group while flying to the mark before it dies would still have a shot at something.