S-Rank mobs needs a invulnerability buff on S-RANKs

[wereotter]

What time of day/night are you generally playing? For Crystal, we've generally had trains scattered across the entire day including some in the wee morning hours.

We've asked the Centurio Hunt Discord if it would be possible to create a new role that would allow notifications of all NA data center trains, especially during off peak hours when it can be hard for players online to find a train. They're trying to figure out if they could come up with something that would reasonably well without requiring players to have to choose every NA data center role. If they can do it, it should help players like you find trains more easily. Data center travel in off peak hours is generally very quick (under 60 seconds total) so going cross data center for trains is viable. I wouldn't suggest doing it for S ranks.

Remember that no other players can dictate to you when you can hunt no matter how much they think they can. It's okay for them to ask politely but they don't have the right to tell you that you must stop. If they go overboard, please report it to the GMs.

Usually around 6/7 PM Pacific is when I get on. One of my FC mates is an avid hunter, and she tried her best to tell me when the hunts happen so I can participate, but the ones she told me about were at 7am my time or 3pm (or maybe it was 4pm) and another I think around 2am. All times that weren't really viable for those of us on the West Coast. I've done a couple A-ranks when I see them with friends, but more the problem is the unwillingness of others to do the hunts outside of those times because they keep saying "leave them for the train"

[Jojoya]

Usually around 6/7 PM Pacific is when I get on. One of my FC mates is an avid hunter, and she tried her best to tell me when the hunts happen so I can participate, but the ones she told me about were at 7am my time or 3pm (or maybe it was 4pm) and another I think around 2am. All times that weren't really viable for those of us on the West Coast. I've done a couple A-ranks when I see them with friends, but more the problem is the unwillingness of others to do the hunts outside of those times because they keep saying "leave them for the train"

There's always the option of scouting and conducting a train yourself if there's no one else doing it on your world. It would just depend on when the last train had been run. If you're finding Rank As up in the Endwalker and Shadowbringers zones, chances are good they're up or close to spawning in the other zones as well.

[Themarvin]

Don't mind the 10 minutes invulnerability on it... but methods and ways to spawn should remain, maybe even being a bit harder to do than what it is now, as for times they already exist.

[KageTokage]

I wouldn't be opposed to them giving older S ranks some kind of buff that caps their damage taken per hit to levels that would be considered reasonable according to their expansion's standards.

If they're going to keep retroactively updating the rewards on older hunts to keep them appealing, then it wouldn't hurt to take measures to ensure they aren't getting melted either.

[Jojoya]

I wouldn't be opposed to them giving older S ranks some kind of buff that caps their damage taken per hit to levels that would be considered reasonable according to their expansion's standards.

If they're going to keep retroactively updating the rewards on older hunts to keep them appealing, then it wouldn't hurt to take measures to ensure they aren't getting melted either.

This is what I'd like to see. Have the S ranks given a buff where any damage dealt above an amount appropriate for the expansion's level range is absorbed/deflected (or heck, reflected, that could be fun to watch). Would probably need to add an immunity to damage over time effects as well. Making that change should be considerably simpler than reworking each S rank or trying to implement player scaling.

The mark would still die somewhat faster but not unreasonably faster. Higher level players would still have their advantage of dodging some attacks due to the level difference. Players at the intended level for the S rank would still be able to participate.

Don't remember them saying that, you have a source for that? I do remember them saying they want to work on new content rather than fix old content. It's why the msq took so long for them to fix. Also they add fates for seasonal events, I doubt it would really require that much effort. It probably cost the same as all saints event did.

I'll see if I can dig up the source if I can remember when it happened. There are so many past Q&As it could have been from.

Regardless, it's something they don't want to do.

[Bsrking5]

SE has stated they are not willing to do that. The amount of time and effort it would take them to convert The Hunt into a FATE style system would come at the cost of a significant amount of new content they could otherwise be making for the game.

People just need to learn they're not supposed to make it to every hunt on their home world let alone cross world. If you want those achievements and rewards, then become one of those who are doing the spawning and the conducting so you're spending more time actually doing The Hunt instead of trying to squeeze it in between the other things you're doing.

Don't remember them saying that, you have a source for that? I do remember them saying they want to work on new content rather than fix old content. It's why the msq took so long for them to fix. Also they add fates for seasonal events, I doubt it would really require that much effort. It probably cost the same as all saints event did.

[Deveryn]

Don't remember them saying that, you have a source for that? I do remember them saying they want to work on new content rather than fix old content. It's why the msq took so long for them to fix. Also they add fates for seasonal events, I doubt it would really require that much effort. It probably cost the same as all saints event did.

They add individual fates for seasonal events a couple times a year. It's 39 fates for all the S ranks. On top of that, there's whatever might be involved in converting those events. It seems like a good way to go, but not something to expect any time soon.

[Darkstride]

This again. If you weren't actually hunting to spawn or find the mark, then you have no right expect anyone to wait for you to get there. Allowing others to join or waiting for the whole server to gather is a courtesy, not a requirement.

Even with an invulnerability window you would still have plenty of people who would cry that they missed it because you didn't wait long enough or they weren't told soon enough.

You say there's no downside to having to wait 5 minutes, which may be true for you - the person who didn't actually hunt the mark. But it's absolutely a penalty to those who put the work in to spawn it and can't engage it.

[KageTokage]

I'd prefer they just artificially limit the kill speed on S ranks so it doesn't matter as much if a hunt gets engaged immediately.

Pre-stat squish it was extremely stressful to spawn ARR S ranks when level 80 players could solo them in a matter of a few minutes coupled with the bot relay networks being so extensive that you'd have the entire data center bearing down on the thing instantly in most cases.

[Canadane]

Also I would like to raise the issue of trying to cram as manyh people as possible into a zone for an S rank (and sometimes just a slow/chill A rank train). It cuts other players out from entering the zone who sometimes have time limited activities to tend to such as a rare fish spawn or some such.
Am I salty I missed a fish due to congestion? Yep. But my heart still bleeds to the other fishers out there too.

In short, stop trying to get everyone a hunt mark at the same time. Kill the thing and be done with it.