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    Leon Keyh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    It is, as i said, not. Cause of how the roulette system works. "Fixing" it would mean to well dunno make all raids mandatory? Or unlock alliance raid only when all raids are unlocked? But then the roulette wouldn't fulfill its purpose anyways, which was from the beginning to help players through old content. There is literally no viable solution to this problem that doesn't include the devs having to consider thousands of different scenarios.

    Like what if a player is never unlocking any other raid than the crystal tower series, that will mean they will get only exactly that raid and possibly force 23 other players into them. What if you play a new job that is only lvl 50? So you can only get Crystal Tower anyways?

    There is no solution without having to rework a fully functioning system with dozens of possibilities to take into account. The amount of work it would cost is not worth the possibility that some people can't cheese their way through it anymore.

    The only really viable solution i could see would be to separate all the alliance raids into their own roulette, that way people would do them all obviously for the daily reward but SE might be against that cause well too much exp gain that way. Only way that doesn't end in having hundreds of stupid rules for one roulette.
    There really aren't "dozens" of possibilities to take into account. It's definitely requires a rework of the system a bit, but there should be 2 requirements for alliance roulette:


    1. You have unlocked all of the raids up to your highest level job
    2. You have an ilvl that matches the latest alliance raid that the job you're queuing up for has reached

    It's not an "easy" thing to program, but there isn't some large number of scenarios that need to be accounted for. You want alliance roulette on your character? Go through all of the alliance raids you have access to. You want to queue up? Make sure you're geared enough for any of them you might get.

    Nobody is forced to do any alliance raids that they don't want to, but you don't get the roulette unless you have them all unlocked.
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    Echo Micacho
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeonKeyh View Post
    There really aren't "dozens" of possibilities to take into account. It's definitely requires a rework of the system a bit, but there should be 2 requirements for alliance roulette:


    1. You have unlocked all of the raids up to your highest level job
    2. You have an ilvl that matches the latest alliance raid that the job you're queuing up for has reached

    It's not an "easy" thing to program, but there isn't some large number of scenarios that need to be accounted for. You want alliance roulette on your character? Go through all of the alliance raids you have access to. You want to queue up? Make sure you're geared enough for any of them you might get.

    Nobody is forced to do any alliance raids that they don't want to, but you don't get the roulette unless you have them all unlocked.
    Yet in that case that would make non msq raids mandatory for said roulette. Which is against SE policy of doing stuff at your own pace. Not to mention that there is also the problem of overleveling, with road to 80 i can reach 80 before i even started with heavensward. Now that would mean that i have to quest all the way up to shadowbringers (and unlock all the raids along the way) just so i can do the roulette again? That would rob players, especially on new worlds, of alliance roulettes for a very long time. Since as i said overleveling is way too easy. Which would be also counterproductive, would mean less players doing the roulette which means less players helping the new fellas clear the MANDATORY crystal tower raid which means extremely long waiting times probably at some point for players in arr.

    To your second point there is also still the problem that one could also never unlock the other alliance raids, i mean i have some not unlocked on alts means i will never get them obviously. Which would mean you could still well expect more crystal tower than the other raids. Since it is also the only mandatory raid to progress to the msq it will be also the only one new players have to unlock and they will probably after that finish the msq first without getting into all the sidecontent, means also all the alliance raids after arr. Which leads to the same problem as your first point which is that this would lead to a decreased number of players if these restrictions were in place that are available for the mandatory raid everyone has to do at least once if they want to progress through arr.

    So what you suggest would really suck for new servers.
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    Nia Niyah
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeonKeyh View Post
    There really aren't "dozens" of possibilities to take into account. It's definitely requires a rework of the system a bit, but there should be 2 requirements for alliance roulette:


    1. You have unlocked all of the raids up to your highest level job
    2. You have an ilvl that matches the latest alliance raid that the job you're queuing up for has reached

    It's not an "easy" thing to program, but there isn't some large number of scenarios that need to be accounted for. You want alliance roulette on your character? Go through all of the alliance raids you have access to. You want to queue up? Make sure you're geared enough for any of them you might get.

    Nobody is forced to do any alliance raids that they don't want to, but you don't get the roulette unless you have them all unlocked.
    This wouldn't be hard for them to program. it's already in the game
    Mentor roulette requires having cleared almost every non savage piece of content in the game and being high enough ilvl to queue for all of them
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