Add iLevel restrictions to Alliance Roulette

[Ranaku]

There really aren't "dozens" of possibilities to take into account. It's definitely requires a rework of the system a bit, but there should be 2 requirements for alliance roulette:


1. You have unlocked all of the raids up to your highest level job
2. You have an ilvl that matches the latest alliance raid that the job you're queuing up for has reached

It's not an "easy" thing to program, but there isn't some large number of scenarios that need to be accounted for. You want alliance roulette on your character? Go through all of the alliance raids you have access to. You want to queue up? Make sure you're geared enough for any of them you might get.

Nobody is forced to do any alliance raids that they don't want to, but you don't get the roulette unless you have them all unlocked.

Yet in that case that would make non msq raids mandatory for said roulette. Which is against SE policy of doing stuff at your own pace. Not to mention that there is also the problem of overleveling, with road to 80 i can reach 80 before i even started with heavensward. Now that would mean that i have to quest all the way up to shadowbringers (and unlock all the raids along the way) just so i can do the roulette again? That would rob players, especially on new worlds, of alliance roulettes for a very long time. Since as i said overleveling is way too easy. Which would be also counterproductive, would mean less players doing the roulette which means less players helping the new fellas clear the MANDATORY crystal tower raid which means extremely long waiting times probably at some point for players in arr.

To your second point there is also still the problem that one could also never unlock the other alliance raids, i mean i have some not unlocked on alts means i will never get them obviously. Which would mean you could still well expect more crystal tower than the other raids. Since it is also the only mandatory raid to progress to the msq it will be also the only one new players have to unlock and they will probably after that finish the msq first without getting into all the sidecontent, means also all the alliance raids after arr. Which leads to the same problem as your first point which is that this would lead to a decreased number of players if these restrictions were in place that are available for the mandatory raid everyone has to do at least once if they want to progress through arr.

So what you suggest would really suck for new servers.

[Reimmi]

There really aren't "dozens" of possibilities to take into account. It's definitely requires a rework of the system a bit, but there should be 2 requirements for alliance roulette:


1. You have unlocked all of the raids up to your highest level job
2. You have an ilvl that matches the latest alliance raid that the job you're queuing up for has reached

It's not an "easy" thing to program, but there isn't some large number of scenarios that need to be accounted for. You want alliance roulette on your character? Go through all of the alliance raids you have access to. You want to queue up? Make sure you're geared enough for any of them you might get.

Nobody is forced to do any alliance raids that they don't want to, but you don't get the roulette unless you have them all unlocked.

This wouldn't be hard for them to program. it's already in the game
Mentor roulette requires having cleared almost every non savage piece of content in the game and being high enough ilvl to queue for all of them

[Baxcel]

I think OP is a bit confused, these restrictions already exist. You can't queue for like world of darkness if your itemlevel is below 90. That is the reason why if you push your itemlevel below that you will only get either crystal tower or labyrinth.

Fact tho is that SE can never change this cause of how the roulette works, you can complete the msq without ever doing a different raid than the crystal tower raids. So if a player who has only ever done these queues for alliance raid roulette it will be anyways just one of these 3. Which is one of the reasons why the crystal tower series, as the mandatory msq raid, will ALWAYS pop much more frequently than any other alliance raid even without the cheese.

Sucks i know but there is literally nothing that can be ever changed or will get changed about it, put your energy into something else than crying over it i would say, just move on.

They could change it to be like Mentor roulette and its locked until you have all the raids unlocked or at least the highest raid for your highest level chr and then add the ilvl requirement

[Havenchild]

Pretty sure you can't queue for the roulette if you are below the WoD ilvl so an ilvl requirement does exist already. And removing CT raids is not going to change the fact that it willnjust be Void Ark that will proc the most which is actually a far worst scenario considering how many activities outside of MSQ are tied to CT. Having said that, its a non issue. If people don't like CT Rauds, stop doing alliance roulette. Its obvious it has like a 90% chance to pop. Don't keep needing threads, it's here to stay and has been for years.

[Reimmi]

Pretty sure you can't queue for the roulette if you are below the WoD ilvl so an ilvl requirement does exist already. And removing CT raids is not going to change the fact that it willnjust be Void Ark that will proc the most which is actually a far worst scenario considering how many activities outside of MSQ are tied to CT. Having said that, its a non issue. If people don't like CT Rauds, stop doing alliance roulette. Its obvious it has like a 90% chance to pop. Don't keep needing threads, it's here to stay and has been for years.

The problem with this "who cares" logic is it makes every alliance raid queue except CT longer.
If i want to farm rabanastre i have to sit through 2+ hour queues as any role. That defeats the purpose of the roulette, which is to help queue times

[Toutatis]

The problem with this "who cares" logic is it makes every alliance raid queue except CT longer.
If i want to farm rabanastre i have to sit through 2+ hour queues as any role. That defeats the purpose of the roulette, which is to help queue times

I don’t know at what time you play but I have never waited more than 1/2 hour for Rabanastre to pop on Primal. I even got it twice in a row last week doing roulette.

[Havenchild]

The problem with this "who cares" logic is it makes every alliance raid queue except CT longer.
If i want to farm rabanastre i have to sit through 2+ hour queues as any role. That defeats the purpose of the roulette, which is to help queue times

I've never waited 2 hrs for any alliance raid to pop so idk I feel like this is exaggeration unless you primarily play at the dead of night/early morning hrs. But at that time, all raids including CT take awhile to pop (30+mins).

[Reinha]

Cap the xp reward based on the item level one is wearing upon queuing. So if you have item level 140 when you queue, you get an amount of xp suitable to a level 50 even if you are level 80. If one is actually level 50 or overleveled it doesn't matter, but it makes cheesing the queue unrewarding.

[LaylaTsarra]

Cap the xp reward based on the item level one is wearing upon queuing. So if you have item level 140 when you queue, you get an amount of xp suitable to a level 50 even if you are level 80. If one is actually level 50 or overleveled it doesn't matter, but it makes cheesing the queue unrewarding.

How about just making the higher level raids worth more? The same reward for the same amount of effort is the issue they need to address. They've done it with Main Scenario for quite some time.

[Reinha]

How about just making the higher level raids worth more? The same reward for the same amount of effort is the issue they need to address. They've done it with Main Scenario for quite some time.

With my suggestion, the higher level raids would be worth more than cheesing.