We are starting to recycle points now. Maybe it's best to re-summarize what was discussed and ruminate over what goal we are trying to reach.


Main Topic Point #1 - YPYT Tanks are breaking the ToS rule for Lethargic Play and Aiding the Enemy

It's likely safe to say an overwhelming majority agree with this point. My take is it hurts everyone in the party even though the excuse is to "teach" the one player pulling a lesson.


Main Topic Point #2 - Anyone is allowed to pull

This point is where we are cycling. I even have stories from both FF14 and WoW that branch into grey zone areas I had to go into. To put it short, it is preferable to let the tank herd stuff in so the damage from the DPS is maximized the best it can be hitting all enemies. If enmity / threat is accidentally on a non-tank even with the tank pulling, drag it to the tank so the tank AoEs peel the enemies off of you. Problems can arise when a few players are out of practice or new to using the applicable cooldowns needed to make the mass pulls possible. This gets worse when we have conflicts from disagreements that could potentially breach the ToS for forcing opinions or play styles onto others. I know it's doubtful a Cure Bot Healer or Single Target DPS would pull for the tank, but you would be surprised. I have seen a few extreme examples where this very thing did happen. Why? Beats me if they can't handle mass pulls . . .


Conclusion?

So far, players on the arguing side I am on suggest we communicate our desire to pull more enemies and say their experience has had very high probability of working. In response, this has been rejected with claims that the communication must come from the others wanting slow pulls. Probability seemingly looks quite low the other side would accept slow pulls being communicated. A few might if there are genuinely enough new players.

We are now at an impasse at this rate for the thread. Are we asking for a "Mass Pull" or "Slow Pull" filter for the roulettes? Improved / Extended Halls of the Novice? A roulette achievement link to the Halls of the Novice to show proof of knowing the skills and spells? Asking for the "few" players wanting slow pulls to not queue is obviously not working. Trusts do not have those roulette tomestone rewards after all (which could be a talking point for a potential Slow Pull grouping solution).