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    MikkoAkure's Avatar
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    Midi Ajihri
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    Quote Originally Posted by midnitdragoon View Post
    There must be some healthy middle ground that meshes the feeling of the old mmos, while modernizing it for the masses today. Honestly.... I don't even believe square would be able to do it, I don't think they would take that kind of risk,as much as I would love it for them to figure it out.
    Eureka was this until NA players “optimized” it and turned it into a FATE train. In the beginning I did level grind parties and I heard the JP servers kept it going. The problem with Eureka is that it is instanced content and isn’t relevant anymore so there’s no reason for people to keep doing it.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    Eureka was this until NA players “optimized” it and turned it into a FATE train. In the beginning I did level grind parties and I heard the JP servers kept it going. The problem with Eureka is that it is instanced content and isn’t relevant anymore so there’s no reason for people to keep doing it.
    Part of why FATE trains came to be was not only because it was easier than actual level grind parties, FFXIV's combat does not lend itself well to those level grind parties. In FFXI you'd have things practically on auto or be casting for a while, and be chatting up the rest of the party because you had nothing else to do during that time. FFXIV's 2.5s GCD and oGCD system can't work with that, you can't send a message between attacks because there is little to no downtime. The NMs however, you had people constantly chatting while waiting for them to spawn, going to help rez others, and acting like the FFXI community. FATE train was how FFXI could be felt here in FFXIV, it was never going to be possible for the level grind parties to have the same feel as they do in FFXI.
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