An open discsusion on the consequences of death

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The tears are so delicious.

Also, there is not a single offline FF where you actually lose experience points for dying (individually), but nice job trying to twist things to justify a dumb idea. Falling behind due to your party killing the enemy while you're dead is different than actually losing points.

Do you know why FFXI had an experience points penalty? It wasn't because the developers followed your FF line of thought. It was because EQ1, the game it was pretty much made after, did.

I'm honestly surprised you didn't ask for all progress to be rerolled back to the last time you touched an Aetheryte if your entire party dies. It's the FF game over, amirite?

Im confused why people keep comparing FFXIV to single player games, its an entirely different genre and makes no sense whatsoever. SP loss gives a feeling of danger when your about to die and many people like that, it can be very fulfilling to narrowly escape death, but you dont quite care if all you lose from dying is a 30 second walk back. Im not sure if its a good idea for this game, but you should at least see WHY other people think it adds another element to the game.

FFXIV is an mmo, it follows much different rules than single player final fantasys and you shouldnt expect the same thing from an entirely different genre. Its like saying you should get an M16 in FFXIV because you can obtain those in COD and that games fun!

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Im confused why people keep comparing FFXIV to single player games, its an entirely different genre and makes no sense whatsoever. SP loss gives a feeling of danger when your about to die and many people like that, it can be very fulfilling to narrowly escape death, but you dont quite care if all you lose from dying is a 30 second walk back. Im not sure if its a good idea for this game, but you should at least see WHY other people think it adds another element to the game.

FFXIV is an mmo, it follows much different rules than single player final fantasys and you shouldnt expect the same thing from an entirely different genre. Its like saying you should get an M16 in FFXIV because you can obtain those in COD and that games fun!

I was responding to the guy using the "it's a FF" argument above. Thanks for indirectly helping to make his post seem dumber, however, as he was saying that there should be a death penalty because he twisted the way single player FFs worked.

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Interesting how

I was responding to the guy using the "it's a FF" argument above. Thanks for indirectly helping to make his post dumber, however.

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I was responding to the guy using the "it's a FF" argument above. Thanks for indirectly helping to make his post seem dumber, however, as he was saying that there should be a death penalty because he twisted the way single player FFs worked.

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My statements, which were a response to

Death has long been a negligible element in videogames, and there's nothing wrong with it.

twists nothing about the way single player FFs worked. Misinterpretation on your part.

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My statements, which were a response to twists nothing about the way single player FFs worked. Misinterpretation on your part.

"Back to basics for FFXIV. Don't ignore the history of the series, and the game that started it all. Stop tyring to appease the casual MMO player, and instead focus on the Final Fantasy fans. Or just rename the game Rapture and forget the FF name."

Pray enlighten us as to what your meaning was.