Quote Originally Posted by ijuakos_xqwzts View Post
It's about "resource management", not "griefing".
What are you even talking about?

Mana economy in this game doesn't exist, and there are literally maybe 2 trash pulls in the entire game that have dangerous raid-wide damage that would prompt you to spend ogcds on a dps who took extra damage. DPS who pull aren't going to die if the tank is responsive, and they won't require any healing because they won't take any more damage once aggro is established. In fact, a Melee pulling with Arms Length up will actually decrease the total damage taken by the party during a trashpull. The only thing that will prompt you to heal a DPS more is a petty, useless tank who refuses to pick mobs up.

Quote Originally Posted by Besame View Post
That is why I avoid dungeons. tanks that just move to gather 3x sets of trash w/o notifying nor asking if the group is ok with it.
Mass pulling is just completely standard play in this game, why would you expect someone to notify you about it?

Quote Originally Posted by Fandele View Post
But I do remember one particular instance in Smileton, where three of us queued in duty finder for a fourth, and ended up with a very impatient reaper who repeatedly pulled All The Things. Now, I did my best, but we did end up wiping twice in the span of about 90 seconds, he bailed, and dutyfinder replaced him almost immediately with another dps with whom we went on to finish without further incident.
All this means is that someone would rather take a 30 minute penalty than play with you in a dungeon. If a party is wiping to double pulls in an endgame dungeon like Smileton, it means they've somehow made it through the entire MSQ without ever learning how to play the game at an extremely basic level.