Endgame gearing in FFXIV

[Ivtrix]

I don't clear savage at all, aside from when I did blue mage. Ya'll are bad enough in extremes on PF and I don't care to try and find a decent static anymore. It's not worth the stress. What I even do has little to do with anything. I at least play the game.

but while we're peeking, where are your final extreme mounts or your morbol mount? (Let me guess, "this is an alt") You're a sprout and you're trying to call me out on my own activities which clearly outdo your own.

this the weirdest attempt at flexing ive ever seen

[Zepherl]

OP has a well written post, but I can't say that I agree with any points, moreso those following in some sort of agreement. SE has a clear formula for gearing up and despite what some might think, it actually works. Those that only do dungeon content can work on their BiS every week. Likewise for savage. There doesn't need to be an alternate route that takes people out of the pool of players pursuing that level of gear.

What is the actual rush? That's a rhetorical question btw, as I know there's no good answer.

What this argument is completely ignoring is PF which is where a lot of people are raiding. PF gradually raises the item level with each week, if you aren't clearing week 1 and keeping up with your tome gear, if you're having bad luck with gear rolls etc, it doesn't matter if you can technically clear the content at a lower item level, PF doesn't care. This late into the tier it is common for PFs to ask for 618+ item levels, I've even seen as high as 625. That is far, far beyond just one crafted set. This also completely ignores how unfriendly this system is for new players. A sprout getting done with MSQ and wanting to go into savage is not going to conveniently time their savage readiness in time with the patch cycles that SE schedules. If they want to keep up with future content and be BiS ready, they're SOL if they didn't clear early enough. Either lower the cost of raid and tome gear, raise the tome cap, or unlock the weekly restriction on loot after week 8. Or do all three of these things!

[Absimiliard]

I don't clear savage at all, aside from when I did blue mage. Ya'll are bad enough in extremes on PF and I don't care to try and find a decent static anymore. It's not worth the stress. What I even do has little to do with anything. I at least play the game.

but while we're peeking, where are your final extreme mounts or your morbol mount? (Let me guess, "this is an alt") You're a sprout and you're trying to call me out on my own activities which clearly outdo your own.

EDIT: This is not a flex. This is calling out hypocrisy.

this the weirdest attempt at flexing ive ever seen

[Ivtrix]

What this argument is completely ignoring is PF which is where a lot of people are raiding. PF gradually raises the item level with each week, if you aren't clearing week 1 and keeping up with your tome gear, if you're having bad luck with gear rolls etc, it doesn't matter if you can technically clear the content at a lower item level, PF doesn't care. This late into the tier it is common for PFs to ask for 618+ item levels, I've even seen as high as 625. That is far, far beyond just one crafted set. This also completely ignores how unfriendly this system is for new players. A sprout getting done with MSQ and wanting to go into savage is not going to conveniently time their savage readiness in time with the patch cycles that SE schedules. If they want to keep up with future content and be BiS ready, they're SOL if they didn't clear early enough. Either lower the cost of raid and tome gear, raise the tome cap, or unlock the weekly restriction on loot after week 8. Or do all three of these things!

The argument also completely ignores that people do enjoy playing multiple jobs, and especially if you dont play jobs on the same job role, you are starting from square 1 obtaining BiS should you dare to play, for example, melee, ranged, healers. You have to start from scratch for all 3 and it really hampers what you want to play in savage.

[Cithaerias_pyropina]

I don't clear savage at all

Then you have no business coming into a thread about endgame gearing since it doesn't matter to you because you don't do savage.

[Zaniel]

It's important that #1 isn't a "filthy casuals" versus "sweaty tryhards" issue. Anyone who wants to run the "you don't need it" argument can GTFO.

Acquisition matters to pretty much all players, even if its for different reasons. A dedicated raider may want to acquire gear to reach certain benchmarks of completing hard content, a casual may want to acquire gear for simple OCD collector reasons or just glamming. Each reason is valid and I agree with the OP point, given there are 19 jobs in the game the current tomestone purchasing rate within each tier is just a bit too slow.

I absolutely do not think they should turn this into a tomestone grindfest with a 20k weekly cap thereby causing everyone to grind until they bleed from their eyes but they don't need to, they can keep the 450 cap if they want so long as the price per item comes down. Would it really be that bad for a chest/leg piece to cost 450 each and a hat/glove/boot to cost 225?

[Ivtrix]

how smug to not notice he edited it after I posted, but please continue.

[RitsukoSonoda]

TBH my personal gripes about the acquisition speed of "endgame" gear in this title is that it mostly pigeonholes ppl into playing 1 job or role for endgame until the latter part of the cycle. This is a severe hinderance of game experience to flexible and/or adaptable players that are capable of playing multiple jobs or roles effectively at that level. Something as simple as keeping the "endgame" weekly tomestone cap at the 900 value they do frequently during catch up campaigns would probably go a fair way to alleviating some of that frustration or hinderance.

My primary other gripe about "endgame" gear is more to do with the way gear is done in this game where it's essentially just figuring out which substats help your job the most then finding the highest ilvl pieces that boost those sub stats. Essentially it feels rather braindead when coming from other RPGs that provide exponentially more options from gear which result in multiple viable gearset/build options.

[Ivtrix]

So the guy really went in here to argue against something that doesn't affect their own experience but would improve the experience of many other players. People on this forum ain't normal.

GCBTW

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[AwesomeJr44]

I don't clear savage at all

Then stop acting like you know literally anything about how raiding or gearing for high-end content works. It's very obvious that you've never even touched raiding. Your opinion is worthless as you know nothing about what you're speaking on. Stop pretending like you know what you're talking about and let real raiders do the talking.

but while we're peeking, where are your final extreme mounts or your morbol mount?

You heard it here everyone! Savage raiders are required to farm out EXs for potentially 99 totems (even if they hate the mount) and participate in a very niche section of the game to know how savage raids and high-end gearing work.

So the guy really went in here to argue against something that doesn't affect their own experience but would improve the experience of many other players. People on this forum ain't normal.

He's a known example of an Official Forum White Knight. There's plenty of them on these forums. They'll argue against something that'd be objectively good if it means they're against someone who is slightly unhappy with the game. It makes no sense why they do what they do until you put yourself in their mindset.