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    Criterion should have had 620-625 ilvl drops from normal and considering savage dungeon difficulty AND MISERABLE LOOT THAT MAKES IT DEAD ON ARRIVAL CONTENT LIKE DRS it should have been 630 or even 635 ilvl (armor/acc) weekly drops

    (635 ilvl sync gives a useless mount/title, ultimate with similar sync gives BIS weapon ....)

    But fixing loot system will not fix crucial problem ff14 has: there are barely any ways to use gear we aquire besides doing parse runs or ultimate. Criterion atleast added new activity but because of trash loot system majority of people right now are locked to 1-2 classes to play there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stasya View Post
    Criterion should have had 620-625 ilvl drops from normal and considering savage dungeon difficulty AND MISERABLE LOOT THAT MAKES IT DEAD ON ARRIVAL CONTENT LIKE DRS it should have been 630 or even 635 ilvl (armor/acc) weekly drops

    (635 ilvl sync gives a useless mount/title, ultimate with similar sync gives BIS weapon ....)

    But fixing loot system will not fix crucial problem ff14 has: there are barely any ways to use gear we aquire besides doing parse runs or ultimate. Criterion atleast added new activity but because of trash loot system majority of people right now are locked to 1-2 classes to play there.
    I wouldn't call DRS dead on arrival - people run and do it still to this day if not solely for the glams and the mount. I believe the same appeal is still existing for Baldesion Arsenal. The difference is, DRS has replayability because you have to go back to finish everything (glams, in this case) whereas such incentive doesn't really apply for Criterion. If they had glams with the books, people would run it again. That being said, I liked Criterion. I wish it had more incentive, but this was more fun than any savage tier in the recent years (I've done every raid tier week1 since Promise fully blind), nearly comparing enjoyment to a Ultimate. I hope we get more of them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Miyuyu View Post
    Good catch. I did note in my original post that I think that the unlock needs to happen much sooner. Either way, it's a really long loot life-span and generally at some point in the back half we get to farm it. But THAT point does not come soon enough imo. So for the AVERAGE player, the loot lifespan is MASSIVE but for those of us who are ult gremlins, it generally feels extremely slow u no.

    It's just a rough situation because changing it for ultimate raiders means changing it for everyone else and that has ripple effects that we need to consider.
    I edited my original post to explain that even casuals suffer largely of this. Arguably, even more than we raiders do. I'll gladly go more into detail as to why, but largely it has to do with people wanting to be stronger and mor powerful, without locking themselves into just one or two jobs in a game that heavily emphasises (and community gladly boasts of) on doing everything on one character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XaiQ View Post
    I wouldn't call DRS dead on arrival - people run and do it still to this day if not solely for the glams and the mount. I believe the same appeal is still existing for Baldesion Arsenal. The difference is, DRS has replayability because you have to go back to finish everything (glams, in this case) whereas such incentive doesn't really apply for Criterion. If they had glams with the books, people would run it again. That being said, I liked Criterion. I wish it had more incentive, but this was more fun than any savage tier in the recent years (I've done every raid tier week1 since Promise fully blind), nearly comparing enjoyment to a Ultimate. I hope we get more of them.
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    Savage dungeon will crash materia X prices, what devs were thinking....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stasya View Post
    Savage dungeon will crash materia X prices, what devs were thinking....
    I just believe the rewards were added to pad the listings. Hunt Trains is and will be the most efficient materia farmer, and I don't think they want to create another Anemos situation what completely crashed materia market.
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