A game for 4 year olds

[Doozer]

Are people really defending a plotline where a magically created bunny rabbit creates Grass and fertile land, through the power of HOPE in an inhospitable part of the universe lmaoo i can't even, it's actually kinda embarrassing but I guess it appeals to the lowest common denominator. Then said bunny makes a salad, out of rocks that I mined, and the two citizens who are ideologically different and at war decide to become friends and go work on the fake farm for the rabbits. What's next? Will the sun shine out of WoL's ass cheeks? Will the murder-robots and the dragons, previously genocided by said murder-robots hold hands in the sunshine and clap and sing together? Give me a break, OP is correct and all you white knights are gross. I was hoping Dynamis was a one-and-done thing like everything else in this game but no, it seems they've picked the most stupid inane plot device they can and they're stretching it as far as it'll possibly go. Power of feelings lmao imagine defending that crap. I'll be so glad when Endwalker "content" is over and in the past. if .3>7.0 carries on with this crap I'm unsubbing. If i wanted to play a game with a plotline taken out of a children's book i'd go play KH. All of the things that make a good final fantasy title are missing right now.

Go play Dark Souls, edgelord.

[Videra]

I'm seeing a lot of edgelords in this thread complaining about content that is both consistent with prior equivalents thereof, and that no one has completed OR experienced yet. I have my complaints about Endwalker's story, and frankly, it being by design a story about absurdism and living with the troubles of life is not one of them. While I'm sure I'll have my issues with the Omicron tribe story, I've liked what I've seen overall - and am extremely glad it's actually about showing Ultima Thule a reason to live. I'll reserve my opinions until I see the rest, and, just one more thing.

Being messed up is not a theme. Darkness is not a narrative. Violence on its own is not mature.

[Lustre]

Go play Dark Souls, edgelord.

Already cleared em all but cheers for the recommendation Male Viera #97356

[JeanneOrnitier]

Have half the people in this thread never done a tribal quest before or something? Go do the namazu or moogle quests and try to tell me this is some new tone for the game. Literally the very previous patches' tribe quest was about solving troubles with Mario Kart.

Finding happiness and hope is literally the theme of FFXIV as a whole. I don't know how Endwalker didn't make that abundantly clear to you, but it was even before then. Did you have the same issues when the dragons and Ishgardians made peace after 1000 years of war?

[aveyond-dreams]

As if on cue, this thread managed to attract not only bad faith posters but also ones who have no better arguments than to tell other people to go play Dark Souls. Oh well. I could not have expected for people who are ok with a story that hands them free win after win to play fair when it comes to addressing the issues with this sort of writing. Their power fantasy and comfort characters have to be protected at all costs, while those of us who wanted something of substance are left empty-handed.

[Kozh]

As if on cue, this thread managed to attract not only bad faith posters but also ones who have no better arguments than to tell other people to go play Dark Souls. Oh well. I could not have expected for people who are ok with a story that hands them free win after win to play fair when it comes to addressing the issues with this sort of writing. Their power fantasy and comfort characters have to be protected at all costs, while those of us who wanted something of substance are left empty-handed.

Ikr? And the nearly copy paste responses too. Almost like they're... alts

[Cleretic]

I've learned over time that it really does take a certain level of maturity to appreciate a story that angles for childlike whimsy, lightness and friendliness, instead of demanding a dark, gritty 'realism'. ...in fact, I just remembered that's literally the driving point of the HW Dark Knight questline.

In fact, I think it's kinda funny that someone tried to bring up Dark Souls as the antithesis, because Soulsborne has also been willing to be really silly. If those games were 100% dour and serious, they wouldn't be fun, they'd just be a miserable slog; it's why they deploy a bunch of silly slapstick traps, why they introduce light-hearted jokey characters like Catarinan knights and Trusty Patches, or super weird creature designs like the basilisks or great serpents. There needs to be a light somewhere in the darkness, or else it doesn't feel like there's any value traversing it.

And this game has always been willing to go for whimsy to lighten things up. The main story's done it constantly! Before the loporrits, it was the pixies and the Trolley Boys; before the pixies and the Trolley Boys, it was Grynewaht; before Grynewaht, it was the moogles... uhm, twice, once in HW and once in 2.x; before the moogles, it was the sylphs and the Company of Heroes. Not only are the Omicron tribe quests completely in keeping with the tone of previous non-combat tribe questlines, but they're also completely in keeping with the more light-hearted breaks of the MSQ.

Also, this tribe questline is all just going full-pelt Douglas Adams, which is both wonderful in itself because Douglas Adams is great, and also 100% in-keeping with the MSQ's back end, which pulled a lot from classic sci-fi. (my personal favorite element being the crafted gear being AR-Caean; the English translation actually obfuscated that one by adding the 'AR-'.)

[DPZ2]

I don't know who this game is supposed to be for anymore, but it certainly isn't 20-30 year old fans of fantasy.

I can guess that "20-30 year old fan" fits your own demographic quite nicely. Whether you are a fan of fantasy or not is debatable, although I do detect a slight hint that if you read fan fiction of any kind there just might be a tag of "dead dove-do not eat" attached.

With Yoshi supposedly treating FFXIV as more a playground than a job, I have to wonder just what is the matter with the tastes of someone who is supposed to be significantly older than myself. How do they find this sort of thing palatable at all?

Oddly, 'ageism as argument' does not flow so well for those of us who are outside your own precious demographic.

Perhaps the reason it is attractive is because older players (and Yoshi P) aren't jaded consumers of trash video games who appear to need angst and additional thrills to make things interesting?

Perhaps it's that many players in general resonate with the storyline and are not looking for Master Works of Literature?

Perhaps it's that players in general resonate with the visuals and are not looking for the next cinematic masterpiece to add to their Criterion collection?

Perhaps it's attractive to players in general because they don't appear to share your own likes and dislikes about the main story?

Perhaps it's that players have commented here about the level of whimsy in all of the Tribal quests from ARR because this particular thread was created by someone who apparently dislikes that level of whimsy in their "serious" MMORPG?

[Jandor]

I thought it was pretty funny so far.

[Vyrerus]

I think OP forgot that the premise of these quests is that there is a new star composed entirely of Dynamis barking on Ultima Thule's door. The concern about making everyone sing kumbaya instead of falling into their previous lives is that if the new star grows negatively, then it will basically be a second coming of Meteion, except truly unknown rather than having a splinter of humanity within.

Like, for as whimsical as these quests are, there's literally the looming threat of existential destruction. The thing bringing about all the whimsy could just as easily turn sour. It's actually kind of like having a gun held to your head and being told, "You have to smile and have fun, otherwise the gun goes off." Except in this case, it's every living dead soul in Ultima Thule as well as potentially the rest of the universe.

As others have repeated... making me want to make Lyth-like comparisons of alt accounts and what not, all the other Crafter/Gatherer based beast tribe quests are just as non-sensical/whimsical/worth complaining over as this one is. Or at least within spitting distance of this.

You might wanna go beat on a different drum for a while, because at this point you're performing the labor of the negative. There are better uses for your time and thoughts.

Pay attention to things within their full context, please. I understand why y'all don't like this, but you're misrepresenting the quest chain by and large.