WAR needs a rework

[Daeriion_Aeradiir]

In reality though, Living Shadow is a glorified DOT on legs that will kill you under effects like Acceleration Bomb or Ordained Stillness when it attacks

Pets and entities classified as them like LS & Automaton Queen cannot kill you on movement based mechanics like Bomb & Stillness. I did countless Bozja duels against Gabriel as DRK back in the day where LS lines up with some of its 'stop' mechanics, along with doing TEA on the regular. Never once has LS attacking during stillness killed me. It would also make no sense, since it would mean SMN would auto-die on stillness first in TEA since they have either Phoenix/bahamut out at that time afaik. it would also mean the Balance's re-opener for final phase would be wrong, since it involves summoning the shadow regardless of still/move first, which would have been called out instantly if LS affected stillness.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Pets and entities classified as them like LS & Automaton Queen cannot kill you on movement based mechanics like Bomb & Stillness. I did countless Bozja duels against Gabriel as DRK back in the day where LS lines up with some of its 'stop' mechanics, along with doing TEA on the regular. Never once has LS attacking during stillness killed me. It would also make no sense, since it would mean SMN would auto-die on stillness first in TEA since they have either Phoenix/bahamut out at that time afaik. it would also mean the Balance's re-opener for final phase would be wrong, since it involves summoning the shadow regardless of still/move first, which would have been called out instantly if LS affected stillness.

Im not sure what to tell you other than me getting killed by Menenius' acceleration bomb when i did nothing other than having LS deployed. Maybe Stillness operates differently, but I know what I died to and I know I took my hands off the KB at 5 with autos disabled.

Twice.

[VictorTheed]

My fav times for warrior was HW 3.0 & 3.1 with str jewelry equipped, also SB warrior.

[Asari5]

all the healer want reworks, samurai want kaiten back and now warriors wanna have one too? i'm dragoon, i have a rework coming up... i'm willing to gift it to another job. who wants it?

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

all the healer want reworks, samurai want kaiten back and now warriors wanna have one too? i'm dragoon, i have a rework coming up... i'm willing to gift it to another job. who wants it?

If Creative Business Unit III would stop making jobs progressively worse every expansion for the sake of inclusion of the lowest common denominator, maybe we wouldn't be at the point where almost every group of players wants a rework.

[Argyle_Darkheart]

Im not sure what to tell you other than me getting killed by Menenius' acceleration bomb when i did nothing other than having LS deployed. Maybe Stillness operates differently, but I know what I died to and I know I took my hands off the KB at 5 with autos disabled.

Twice.

Wasn't Menenius' version bugged, somehow? I know that at least there were a lot of people complaining about it behaving strangely at the time.

[Absurdity]

If Creative Business Unit III would stop making jobs progressively worse every expansion for the sake of inclusion of the lowest common denominator, maybe we wouldn't be at the point where almost every group of players wants a rework.

That's the funniest part about this. Every job that has been reworked recently (with the exception being monk I guess) wants another one because the jobs just got worse, while every job that they plan to rework soon wants them to stay far away because players know it won't be good.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

That's the funniest part about this. Every job that has been reworked recently (with the exception being monk I guess) wants another one because the jobs just got worse, while every job that they plan to rework soon wants them to stay far away because players know it won't be good.

That's actually quite tragic, considering they have done alright reworks of jobs before. But the earth is scorched, so I wouldn't trust them an inch.

Unless they say "hey our idea to oversimplify jobs since Shadowbringers was a dumb idea, lets go back to Stormblood/Heavensward", colour me in constant agony.

*kisses image of Speedweapon <dark arts>, ExtenDelirium <dark arts> and <dark arts> Sole Survivor*
You will be missed dearly.

[IckeDerTyp]

You're talking to a wall :3

They'll ll not listen to you, or anyone. People have been very invested with all the changes since SHBs but... the Team has their vision, we're just here along the ride.

I still want stance dancing back but instead we got overpower to be a circle aoe.

Atleast the jobs look cool now! Isn't that right SMN mains? ~

[Daeriion_Aeradiir]

Im not sure what to tell you other than me getting killed by Menenius' acceleration bomb when i did nothing other than having LS deployed. Maybe Stillness operates differently, but I know what I died to and I know I took my hands off the KB at 5 with autos disabled.

Twice.

In it's real case, Menenius's acceleration bomb mechanic has been known to be bugged for a long time now, you can see vids on youtube/threads on reddit of people of every job being absolute still and getting exploded, so its non a pet entity problem. It triggers off of your character doing any non-idle animation whatsoever...which is problematic if he's close enough to do an auto to you, which then causes your character to do their 'get hit' animation, or initiate the parry animation, both of which will kill you if they line up with the small window of Accel bomb's resolution.

The only real way to mitigate it is to put distance between you & Menenius so that after he finishes whatever cast he's doing right before the Accel bomb, it'll take him too long to close the distance to auto you. Or just Flare star to skip all that nonsense lmao