WAR needs a rework

[Rithy255]

I love PLD's current rotation and how it feels (if you do all your Atonements and just play like raid buffs don't exist), I simply don't like the two minute burst meta, their defensives not being good enough, or that Clemancy isn't an OGCD. There's minor gripes about Shield Bash, Cover utility, and wings but mostly it's the other issues, and HG CD being too long for most relevant content like Barb ex.

We've debated clemency before so lets agree to disagree on that. (we wouldn't get anywhere really)

But I generally agree that I love how PLD Feels and it's current rotation, two minute bursts generally ruin all job design, you should have some jobs that are more sustained. This has a bad effect on all tanking roles even, I don't believe "burst into 120" is nothing that feels good (when every job plays like that), it's a big problem with Warrior and Dark knight, they don't have very much to do during down time.

Stuff about defensives
It's defensives really need to at least be on par with other tanks, my personal preference is PLD having the most strongest defensives/support because it suits the job the most, I believe if we "Design" tanks we should have small differences in how strong their defensives are and damage (even if that means a tank being 1% behind). I don't like the idea of all tanks doing the same amount and having the same defensives personally, but I do think the margin shouldn't also be too far, as being a "defensive" tank will only go so far if your dps is bad. (so something like 1% behind seems fine), if the defensives were actually enough to justify it.

In general I'd actually like to see war/gnb be more on the DPS side while PLD/DRK are more on the support/defensive side with magic utilities and stuff, but again i don't want one tank to do majorly more damage then another, also don't want a tank to feel "too weak" defensively.

[Mithron]

Stuff about defensives
It's defensives really need to at least be on par with other tanks, my personal preference is PLD having the most strongest defensives/support because it suits the job the most, I believe if we "Design" tanks we should have small differences in how strong their defensives are and damage (even if that means a tank being 1% behind). I don't like the idea of all tanks doing the same amount and having the same defensives personally, but I do think the margin shouldn't also be too far, as being a "defensive" tank will only go so far if your dps is bad. (so something like 1% behind seems fine), if the defensives were actually enough to justify it.

In general I'd actually like to see war/gnb be more on the DPS side while PLD/DRK are more on the support/defensive side with magic utilities and stuff, but again i don't want one tank to do majorly more damage then another, also don't want a tank to feel "too weak" defensively.

Yep, I 100% agree with this. 1% less defensives for 1% more DPS is good, and makes the fulfillment of each job still satisfying in their fantasy. DPS: WAR > GNB > DRK > PLD, while defensives: PLD > DRK > GNB > WAR.