Yoshi-P "definitive" answer on third party tools from today's 14 hour stream

[Ransu]

I'd encourage you to check out his page on a certain publicly available website. I compared his Asphodelos stuff to yours and you have no right to say he's not a good player. (And before you accuse me of cherry picking, I checked Abyssos too and he has you there as well)

Valkyrie has the higher median average scores. Firemage 22 clears in P4 and 12 of them are grey is not a good look to most people.

Either way, this entire conversation is why I don't like open parsing. I'm only bringing up his stuff to make a point about how negative open parsing would be for PF's.

[FireMage]

Casuals need catered to as much as anyone else in this and any other game. They're the most likely to be here one month and then gone, but that month they're around gives the money the game needs to run. The non-hardcore content runners also provide a lot of the community with which hardcore communities are eventually structured around, and much like how Gachas need minnows to keep the whales around, MMOs need casuals for the hardcore to show off to otherwise you see a lot of people bleed out and the game die a slow death; see Mortal Online.

Forgetting that non casuals are why the game is actually afloat

Depends on the goal of the group. Speedrunning the dungeon? Should have full abandoned the dungeon and re-run it.
Killing the dungeon in a reasonable amount of time? Kicking people would cost more time waiting for refills.

Replacements are a dime a dozen

Yet here we are in a highly successful MMO that does just that.

Odd..innit?

And casualism is not a reason for XIV being highly successful. That's the story and brand name doing the lifting. High end content does more for keeping people around after the aforementioned than anything else

I don't do parse runs. Everything gets uploaded no matter how bad it is. Mine is an accurate account for my static clears and no more.


He's still not that good.

I am that good, I've never run with a group where I'm ever below the average skill of the group, I'm either the best or close to. I also don't do parse runs either

Valkyrie has the higher median average scores. Firemage 22 clears in P4 and 12 of them are grey is not a good look to most people.

Either way, this entire conversation is why I don't like open parsing. I'm only bringing up his stuff to make a point about how negative open parsing would be for PF's.

And as per usual you didn't actually look at them, something a bad does. And we've established why you're against open parsing, your performance is poor

[AwesomeJr44]

Forgetting that non casuals are why the game is actually afloat

True. That's not to say that casuals have zero value, but a lot of people tend to undervalue those who aren't hyper casuals.

Replacements are a dime a dozen

Eh, I don't think kicking/replacing someone in a dungeon is a good thing to do unless they're actively trolling. It IS casual content, so it's expected that you'll find casuals there.

And casualism is not a reason for XIV being highly successful. That's the story and brand name doing the lifting. High end content does more for keeping people around after the aforementioned than anything else

As much as I hate the recent story, I do have to admit that the story's reputation, while undeserved, is a big reason for why this game is anywhere close to as popular as it is now. And while the story is technically 'casual content', it's not a part of casualism. You are also correct in pointing out that the FF brand probably does grant it a slight advantage over the competition.

I am that good, I've never run with a group where I'm ever below the average skill of the group, I'm either the best or close to. I also don't do parse runs either

While I would hesitate to say you're a god tier gamer or anything (I'm not either so don't take this as bragging or anything), your numbers are high enough where you're clearly not a hyper casual. I'm not sure how true the statement "I've never run with a group where I'm ever below the average skill of the group" is, but you're not "not that good" either.

And we've established why you're against open parsing, your performance is poor

Not everyone against parsing has poor performance, but I've noticed a trend.

It's a bit frustrating reading through all that fluff though. Just put it out there, plain and simple instead of trying to sugar coat it and keep everyone happy. I prefer things how they are now, but all the formalities and him trying to skirt around just saying it is a bit bothersome.

If they just come out and say it, that's a statement they might have to stand by. It's better for them to just hint at stuff and leave the TOS nice and vague so they can twist and bend it to apply to things as they see fit.

[VelKallor]

And casualism is not a reason for XIV being highly successful. That's the story and brand name doing the lifting. High end content does more for keeping people around after the aforementioned than anything else

...thats what Wildstar said. How did that work out again?

[FireMage]

...thats what Wildstar said. How did that work out again?

Another garbage post, Wildstar had no brand name

[SaberMaxwell]

Forgetting that non casuals are why the game is actually afloat

Am I, or did you just not read my post? I believe the thesis wound up being "non-hardcore communities wind up being the foundation for hardcore ones" and that casuals serve the same purpose to hardcore raiders as minnows do to whales.