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  1. #391
    Player FireMage's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithron View Post
    So why is SAM rDPS so high while MCH is so low, then?
    MCH is a ranged phys, it is taxed due to being a ranged phys which is the easiest DPS role in the game
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  2. #392
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    Except that I'm not. Stating facts is not and never will be trolling. This is like dealing with flat-earthers
    Nothing you have stated has been remotely factual. You're giving your extremely poor opinions yes. Facts though? No lol. Only a troll would make the illogical arguments you are making creating a realm where MCH and SMN may as well not exist because you think they are "easy" to play (even though as far as I'm concerned BRD and DNC are just as brain dead easy to play as MCH and SMN.)
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  3. #393
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Nothing you have stated has been remotely factual. You're giving your extremely poor opinions yes. Facts though? No lol. Only a troll would make the illogical arguments you are making creating a realm where MCH and SMN may as well not exist because you think they are "easy" to play (even though as far as I'm concerned BRD and DNC are just as brain dead easy to play as MCH and SMN.)
    Whinge as hard as you'd like, but I've done nothing but state facts on the matter. Take your hyperbole and flaming with you
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  4. #394
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    Whinge as hard as you'd like, but I've done nothing but state facts on the matter. Take your hyperbole and flaming with you
    Your opinions are not good. That is a fact. You cannot dispute this. You are dismissed.
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  5. #395
    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    Whinge as hard as you'd like, but I've done nothing but state ̶f̶a̶c̶t̶s̶ opinions on the matter. Take your hyperbole and flaming with you
    I fixed that for you.
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  6. #396
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    One of them is an exception that escapes the rule.
    And if I can base myself on BLM, then I believe MCH is the exception.
    SAM contributes better to the team but if DNC is so high, it's mainly thanks to Samurai.
    We need to look at both aDPS and rDPS to understand how a job can scale with buffs and how much they bring to the party.

    If we look into rDPS, MCH brings barely anything to increase the party total DPS.
    If we look into aDPS, MCH barely benefits from buffs and generates low rDPS.
    So you're saying SAM is high on rDPS because they get Dancing Partner, but MCH doesn't get it so that's why they're so low. Looking at aDPS too, SAM is #1 and BLM is #2, but MCH is still #7. Why wouldn't MCH benefit as much for raid buffs as other jobs?

    I know we're both in agreement MCH is in a rough spot and needs buffs, I'm just asking these things for better clarification on DPS as a whole for not only me but others who read and may not fully grasp rDPS/aDPS.
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  7. #397
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    Your opinions
    I haven't stated any on the matter. Try again
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  8. #398
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    I haven't stated any on the matter. Try again
    You do not state facts. You state opinions. You are wrong. You cannot dispute my logic. You are dismissed.
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  9. #399
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    You do not state facts. You state opinions. You are wrong. You cannot dispute my logic. You are dismissed.
    Your logic is trying to state that a fact is an opinion. I guess the Earth revolving around the sun is an opinion now. You warrant no further replies for your harassment
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    Your logic is trying to state that a fact is an opinion. I guess the Earth revolving around the sun is an opinion now. You warrant no further replies for your harassment
    My logic has long surmised that your facts are indeed not facts, but opinions. I am sorry that you equate logic and reality for harassment. I hope you get well soon.
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