Ideas For a Paladin Rework

[Oizen]

2 minute burst meta needs to die. Making every job play the same is not the way. All I'm seeing here is discount Gunbreaker. Turning FoF into a raid buff and Req into a 2 minute CD with all of their stacks and Holy Blade spells auto direct critting would be some funny crap.

I wager some people like Paladin because it doesn't care about the 2 minute burst.

Most PLD players I talked to dont want the job being the top damage and wanted it to be the bulky defense tank.
Imagine wanting that from the only tank who holds a shield.

The Job should be the fattest in defense, and yet we're trying to shove it into top DPS into a design that isn't PLD. Its kinda sad.

[Rithy255]

Most PLD players I talked to dont want the job being the top damage and wanted it to be the bulky defense tank.
Imagine wanting that from the only tank who holds a shield.

The Job should be the fattest in defense, and yet we're trying to shove it into top DPS into a design that isn't PLD. Its kinda sad.

I want big defence and big utility, I like having decent damage numbers, but if PLD was around Wars level of DMG while being strong defensively and having good utility I'd be very happy.

Right now Its funny how Pld is considered the offtank with janky somewhat useless utility lol, If people slapped big numbers on current PLD and kept how it is not that I wouldn't play it, but I've always wanted Paladin to be a strong "tank" a strong "support", Of course I want PLD to have viable numbers and not be far behind the DPS of DRK/GNB (or even war) but I don't think or want PLD to be top dps lol, I don't even think that really suits PLD as a job, suits Gnb, drk or even warrior way more.

Of course you can't just make PLD do bad damage because then it wouldn't really be used but if any tank should be the lowest damage but strongest defence/support it should be Paladin, I've always liked the Knight look so I'd pretty much play Paladin no matter what as long as the job is somewhat fun and viable.

[MagiusNecros]

Most PLD players I talked to dont want the job being the top damage and wanted it to be the bulky defense tank.
Imagine wanting that from the only tank who holds a shield.

The Job should be the fattest in defense, and yet we're trying to shove it into top DPS into a design that isn't PLD. Its kinda sad.

The high end players have made the game into a DPS rat race so they ironically don't want mitigation just enough to survive a raidwide or Tankbuster. If they did they would actually use Passage of Arms for the full 18 seconds.

I agree it should be the tankiest if played well. It's why Knight in FF5 is amazing for Physical Damage since "Guard" nullified/absorbed one physical attack. Which you could cheese with "Cover" to mitigate a lot of damage.

If it was up to me "blocks" should be 100% mitigation or at least 50% and Passage/Sheltron is your big boy mitigation skills.

If the damage is low then the defense should be high.

But you see the argument is always going to be that DPS is all that matters because if you skip a phase or kill the boss 20 seconds faster you mitigate a lot more damage.

[TabrisOmbrelame]

The high end players have made the game into a DPS rat race so they ironically don't want mitigation just enough to survive a raidwide or Tankbuster. If they did they would actually use Passage of Arms for the full 18 seconds.

I agree it should be the tankiest if played well. It's why Knight in FF5 is amazing for Physical Damage since "Guard" nullified/absorbed one physical attack. Which you could cheese with "Cover" to mitigate a lot of damage.

If it was up to me "blocks" should be 100% mitigation or at least 50% and Passage/Sheltron is your big boy mitigation skills.

If the damage is low then the defense should be high.

But you see the argument is always going to be that DPS is all that matters because if you skip a phase or kill the boss 20 seconds faster you mitigate a lot more damage.

Blocks 100% mitigation ? That is not viable because Paladin is the only tanks able to do that. You are literally making Shiltron equal Hallowed Ground, making paladin virtually invincible at almost all time. Even 50% Is a huge mitigation even stronger than any 2 minute cooldown available in the game so far.

Don't forget that Paladin is the only tank able to block AND parry. Paladin already have bigger defense because they will Block/Parry more often in total than other tanks who can only Parry attacks. Having paladin being the lowest DPS tank isn't exactly a bad choice. If Paladin was stronger than the actual DRK in term of DPS, nobody will play DRK because of Paladin's absurdity.