Quote Originally Posted by Rivinhal View Post
It's like they don't understand the job at all. It's infuriating.
This is important to remember because it's true - the changes to Scholar from Stormblood to even Endwalker show they don't understand how the job is played, or if they do they have a radically different vision for how it, in their minds, should be played.

The difference is that Broil wasn't a 1.5s cast in those expansions either though. It's not even really necessary anymore. Slidecasting has never been easier, and if you're using Ruin 2 constantly, there's an issue imo.
The problem is that if you're using Ruin II at all, there's an issue. It's not just a "don't use this often" button, it's ALWAYS a DPS loss to use it, so when trying to optimize it's a "never use this" button. In ShB, Lilies were used by White Mage primarily as a movement tool because WHM had no movement options outside of hitting Dia for the 70 or whatever potency it was. WHM was even called a turret mage by some because it just couldn't move without losing DPS, and obviously that's been changed in EW and now WHM can use its Lilies for healing or needed movement, and I don't think anyone seriously wants to go back to the "lmao enjoy the DPS loss for pressing your buttons MORON" era on WHM. So why should we now be suffering that on SCH?

One thing I'm a bit confused is how you don't like Energy Drain, but you do like Ruin II - they're two sides of the same token. One is a DPS loss to heal with, and the other is a DPS loss. If it feels bad to hit ED, it feels bad to hit Ruin II.

I think rather than just caving and giving us back a shoddy tool like energy drain that fixes one issue and exacerbates another, they could've just fixed the problem entirely.
While it's true that SE doesn't understand Scholar, it's also important to understand the timeline in which these changes were made. In Stormblood, Miasma II was a 100 potency spell with a 12s DoT that had a 25s potency, meaning it added up to 200 potency total if the DoT got the full tick duration - pair that with Energy Drain's 150 potency (at the time, it was nerfed mid ShB) and Miasma II + ED was a 350 potency combo, a 120 potency gain over Broil II (230 potency) and SCH's best way of moving or weaving healing. Ruin II also existed in Stormblood, but it was always a DPS loss to hit even though Ruin II + ED would've been 20 potency gain over Broil II (Ruin II was 100 potency). It was always a DPS loss to hit because Miasma II existed as the superior option. So SE saw that Scholars were not using Ruin II, but they had a general understanding of the reasoning being that Miasma II was 200 potency, Ruin II was 100 potency, so in their great SCH DoT cull they buffed Ruin II to 200 potency like Miasma II was, and got rid of Miasma II.

Great, everything is perfect now, right? Scholars will use Ruin II now and we got rid of a DoT!

Well, not really. You also have to keep in mind that this happened at the exact same time that Scholar lost it's entirely free source of healing - its faerie. Moving Eos and Selene off the petGCD and onto the oGCD now meant that SCH had to weave to use Whispering Dawn and the new faerie heals when previously these had never come with an opportunity or DPS cost as SCH could use them while they were casting Broil or any other spells. So people demanded Energy Drain back, because coming off of Stormblood, it was what they knew in regards to Scholar. Would 1.5s cast times like AST had at that point have fixed that issue? Yeah, it would've, and they could've kept Energy Drain gone as well. Why didn't they do that? Well, because they don't understand how the job is played. They don't care, it's a healer and it's not something they're ever going to care about.